In a message dated 11/15/05 5:51:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, amidon@xxxxxxxxx writes: ???Some of the posts spew such hate..This is a list about dogs..We all share in this wonderful hobby..We all see things differently so lets be nicer We all are entitled to our thoughts and what we believe in. Maybe it is just me, (shut up Paul) but I haven't seen that much hate, just some passionate people. I was amazed to read the post that said there were no good shoulders at our national. I still remember watching Rollins out of Veterans or Happyandyouknowit in Specials. For type, how can we forget the class of Stud dogs when Sight For Sore Eyes brought into the ring so much type it made my eyes sore. I do think if the ring is too small, perhaps type is going to be noticed more. If you have a 70 yard ring like we did in Concord, the dog better be able to move. We all have the same goal in mind, and it is not always to breed the perfect dog. It isn't to improve the breed, or to eliminate all faults. It is not to get rid of hip or elbow problems in our breed, or even to establish perfect temperament. It is not to perfect the health of our dogs, or to breed the next Grand Victor. The goal we have is to enjoy our lives, live them fully and try to get out of this world without doing a great deal of harm. We have chosen to do that with German shepherds, and that should be enough. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================