[ SHOWGSD-L ] Who are we kidding?- hock

  • From: Gsdman2@xxxxxxx
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:03:12 EST

In a message dated 12/17/2005 4:08:12 PM Central Standard Time, 
MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx writes:
The metatarsus (the unit between the hock joint and the foot) is short, 
strong and tightly articulated.
Which I take to mean as "The dog shouldn't be able, or shouldn't HAVE to put 
his entire hock on the floor to support his body weight."
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I don't really know what to say to this.  Your interpretation of the passage 
has nothing at all to do with the passage.  A good strong and short hock could 
lay flat on the floor just as easily as a long one.  All you need to do is 
put it there for the picture you're probably judging the dogs by.  I agree that 
there are dogs that walk on their hocks, but that is not necessarily a length 
issue as much as it is ligament, or croup angle, or lead tension, or possibly 
other things.  The truth is, most of us cringe when we see a GSD walk on its 
hocks.  Breed for the good strong short hock because it is correct. 

The lack of drive I see is usually a structural problem.  We've discussed 
locked hocks many times, and that will kill drive, but I think they are finally 
on the decline.  Lack of drive today is more a result of the quest for extreme 
topline in motion, I think.  With strong drive, the back would tend to level 
out in motion because that is where balance in forward drive is achieved when a 
dog suspends well.  There is some topline in motion because the rear drive 
slightly lifts the front of the dog. However, if that is exaggerated then it 
seems as though it must cause a loss of suspension.  Basically the dogs are 
doing 
a little more than power walking to maintain their extreme topline in motion 
... in my opinion.  Good drive and long suspension is created with strong 
"forward" drive.  If you aim the topline upward too much, the drive will push 
the 
front of the dog upward too much, and a loss of ground coverage is the logical 
result.  

Tom Langlitz


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