Thank you for everyone who responded on recommended reading for my friend. Miracle of miracles, I was scheduled to go up either Friday night or Saturday morning for the weekend. I didn't think the bitch would whelp until Tuesday personally. Well, my friend called Friday morning and asked if I could come that night instead of Saturday as she was starting to really panic (my friend not the bitch!). The bitch went into stage 1 labor at 2:30 Friday afternoon, I arrived at 12:30am and the first pup was born at 9:10am! The vet thought she was going to have 5 pups. To that point we had two males and two females.....my friend was hoping for lots of girls with one boy for the coowner so she could fulfil her contract and be done with her (long story!). We were telling the bitch we wanted two more girls. Well, unfortunately puppy five was born dead with severely deformed back legs....but it was a female! I made my friend take the bitch to the vet for an xray, sure enough, one more pup.....and guess what.....another girl! So, we not only have a bitch that will whelp on command, but one that will give us the sexes we ask for! What a good mom she is!! Thanks again to everyone! Marci Smith Stepping Stone German Shepherd Rescue, Inc. Paris, KY _www.SteppingStoneGermanShepherdRescue.com_ (http://www.steppingstonegermanshepherdrescue.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================