[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Weak rears, extreme angles, or...?
- From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:44:06 -0800 (PST)
First, there can be no such"hock test" on a proper German shepherd. They
simply do not stack themselves four square. Look at a good GSD out in
the yard, in the field, anywhere that he stops, that one rear leg will be
back. I guess you are referring to the hock joint when you speak of the
"ankle" Actually, this would be the heel, and if it turned out it could be
due to any number of reasons, none of which would be of any consequence
in evaluating the dog standing. Any animal, human, dog, horse, etc., may
stand with a foot, paw ,or hoof (look at the horse standing with only the
tip of
the hoof touching the ground) doing something other than flat and straight
because he is comfortable, bored, or (grin) maybe just because his handler
screwed those feet into the ground not to his liking. However, this could in
no
way be seen as any indication of weakness, loose logamentation, or any
other structural problem. Even the great structural seminarist, Quinten
La Hamm (he did not necessarily practice what he preached when he
judged ), advised his students never to penalize a dog for standing cow
hocked. One cannot find a more agile herding dog than a border collie,
yet their standard stated that they may stand somewhat cow hocked.
Ahh, but moving, that's another matter, and that's where the proof is.
Regards, Carolyn
MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: Alright, I Have a question on stacking. In tons and
tons of stacked
pictures, and videos/live dog shows, when the GSD handler stacks their dog, the
outside rear ankle often turns in. Now, is this because of a weak rear,
extreme
angle, bad stacking, loose ligaments, or...?
Do any of you do the 'hock test' by stacking your dog four square to see if
they have nice straight parallel hocks instead of tipping in and cow hocking?
It's something that has been bothering me a great deal, and I want to know if
it's being 'overlooked' because the dog can move well (though I don't see how
it can if it can't even keep it's own hock straight in a stack) or if I'm
seeing something that's not really there.
- Jackie
Marcato Shepherds
Where it's about function, not flash
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