The perfect GSD based on our standard has never been produced is a statement hat most will agree...new question....is our standard a standard that measures he complete idea of what our dog should be?....a herding dog,a working dog,a protection dog......most puppies bred by conformation breeders do not go on to ecome AKC, CKC conformation Champions...most never see the show ring...are hese dogs not worthy?....the show dog is the exception, not the rule......most I agree with you Ed, we breed to get as close to the standard as we can, there is no "perfect" dog. Conformation breeders breed for show which means again breeding to get as close as we can to that ideal shepherd. Those that do not turn out for the show ring, become a person's loving companion or performance dog. Those that do very well in the conformation ring can also be a loving companion and performance dog. In my humble opinion there should not be those that breed for conformation and those that breed for performance/working dogs. It should be one and the same if we are breeding according to the standard. Right? Joyce MyJoy Shepherds -----Original Message----- From: edwinx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2011 7:09 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] This will get me in trouble...move over Sarah The perfect GSD based on our standard has never been produced is a statement hat most will agree...new question....is our standard a standard that measures he complete idea of what our dog should be?....a herding dog,a working dog,a protection dog......most puppies bred by conformation breeders do not go on to ecome AKC, CKC conformation Champions...most never see the show ring...are hese dogs not worthy?....the show dog is the exception, not the rule......most f us have never played professional sports, those individuals who have, for the ost part are physically larger or stronger or faster than most of "US"....are e not worthy based on the human standard...and yes I agree my analogy is a bit xtreme...and I am not comparing us to dogs........we created ALL PURE BRED reeds...and that is not a bad thing.......we spend so much time trying to rotect our image of what we believe our dog should be and close off the beliefs nd opinions of what others believe.....a nd that goes even more so for the breeders of so-called working GSDs........ALL SDs are working dogs!....She is a working breed, and in my opinion second to one.......the 2013 World show in OUR country is the perfect opportunity to show veryone just what a wonderful dog we have....we have far more in common than we hink......I hate e-mail communication.....I could have expressed this better in erson.......Ed =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================