In a message dated 12/3/2005 6:58:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I always wondered why most folks believe its important for both judges on a two day show weekend to like the same "type" of dog After years of showing you realize that two judges can be knowledgeable, honest and good judges but like different types of dogs. There are judges who will not put up a missing tooth, and judges who are death on backs, or color or other factors. Some judges prefer a darker dog, some a shorter coupled dog, and some will put movement over type. If you pick for a weekend a judge that an exhibitor has a shot at both days, you will increase both show entries. It is not so objective in judging that all honest judges with a full understanding of the breed, will put up the same type of dogs. Even then two judges who select the same type, may often go with one or the other, and one might go first and the other second. But, if you have a judge one day who will favor type, and the next day one who will favor movement, you may loose a number of entries for both shows. It is too expensive today to travel to shows where you only have a chance at points one day. Although there are a number of exhibitors who will only enter under one of two judges, or who will bring a dog for each day, and not enter both shows. It sounds great to say a good judge will always put up the best dog, but the truth is that judges are human, the standard leaves a number of issues to be determined, and there are some great honest judges who see things differently. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================