In a message dated 8/13/2005 7:48:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, badbob_2003@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I handled enough years to know to hold my dog back then let them go on a loose lead. I just ran faster for a few steps. At a show I judged a few years ago, I told the handlers I wanted a loose lead, and not a handler's loose lead. The handlers knew what I meant. It is common to hold a dog up, then let it take a few more steps the same way, while the handler lets the lead drag loose, then as soon as the dog realizes he is not being held up, gets jerked back up on a tight lead. I have always made it clear, that I want the dog on a loose lead "at some point" and long enough for me to see what the dog is actually doing. I don't need to see it for half an hour, but enough to know what I am judging. Not everyone will do it, but those who don't find they have a number of dogs in front of them when the ribbons are given out. Not that there is anything right about that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================