Also something that I meant to bring up regarding shoulder anatomy and evaluations of shoulder and rear assembly at birth and beyond is....at birth, you cannot see ligamentation, and it varies greatly in line to line. German dogs, may have in some cases equally good shoulders and rears on a skeletal level...but in many instances it is the tightness in the German structure, or conversely the "looseness" of ligamentation (or length) that may allow or disallow for reach and drive. Just a P.S. Kathy On 19/12/2007, Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > YES YES YES!!!! > Kay you are exactly right. Heart, Desire, "Work Ethic" ,Vigor, > Charisma... > can take an average dog and turn him into a star. Without it a star turns > into > a slug. One of our biggest pet peeves is a slug with no "go" no desire. > > I also heard someone say that there are actually people out there that > think > a dog with good temperament will have no "go". WHAT?!!! ROTFLMAO. > We are blessed here with dogs of impeccable temperament, some , tough as > nails, > some sweet as karo syrup....the thing they all have in common is GO. It is > in the DNA. > It is a commonality in the American dogs and the German dogs that we have. > > That desire to go, to work to PLEASE that fire, that vigor is as much a > part of a > truly great GSD , as it's desire to serve and protect. Spare me a slug. > Spare me > the coward. Gentlemen.....START YOUR ENGINES > Kathy > > > On 19/12/2007, Kay Reamensnyder <bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I think there is part of this discussion that we have not addressed and > > that > > is > > because it is very difficult to recognize and define...............it is > > > > something that > > is present in every great athelete, race horse, show dog, > > etc............it > > is a state > > of mind. How many times have you seen a really beautifully structured > > animal > > ================ > > > -- http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com Ch. Elvaston's Nations Cup, TC, OFA 26 BOB/BISS to Date ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================