[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The AB debate
- From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: hightor@xxxxxx, showgsd <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:16:55 -0800 (PST)
I feel this thread was intended not as an argument, a vs, or even a
debate, but a plea to get good, knowledgeable judges into the AB
ring in order to eliminate this image of two styles. It's called education,
and AKC requires precious little education for judges to add our rather
difficult breed to their applications. It is up to the judge as to whether he
wants to truly learn or just to check the box to become approved. We
are the ones who can make the difference, and we are slowly doing so.
In the last few years, there are many dogs who are winning in both rings.
How can anyone not see that this is a good thing? Although I, like most
on this list, prefer the specialty show, we still have but one type because
type is the standard. Type is what defines a breed as opposed to another
breed. There should be no stygma to winning in either ring as they should
unequivicably be the same. We are making progress : more clubs are
providing larger rings for us ; more are giving us knowledgeable judges
that we request. They don't know what judges we want if we don't tell them.
Sooooo, rather than thinking of this as argument or dissention, think
of it as just another way that we can do more for our breed, our ONE breed
There is no problem with those who choose to attend only specialty shows,
nor is there a problem with those who prefer the AB, let's just help the
judges recognize the good ones in both rings. It's still called education, and
one of the most important elements of education is visual. Let's show them
the good ones regardless of which ring we, as exhibitors, prefer.
Carolyn.
Marie Hicks <hightor@xxxxxx> wrote: This old argument has gone on for years
and always leaves behind many hurt
feelings among our German Shepherd lovers. It is time for all to reflect
that many of the top so called specialty judges also do AB shows. I should
know since all my Champions have both major and minor points from them. Am
I ashamed of my Champions. Like h---!! I remeber when Torrey won the
Pacific Coast Championship trophy that the San Diego Club gives every year.
Dave Renke was the judge and I remember the silence when he won after all as
one voice was heard saying" he's an AB Champion" Well I will still match my
Torrey and his brothers and sisters and their offspring against anything in
Specialties. I learned very early in the game that those shows were not
always on the up and up. Not because my dogs did not win but because of
what the ringside was so freely saying. Boy am I glad I am retired from
showing and breeding. We are never going to bring new blood in as long as
we continue to have these demeaning discussions. Other breed people always
questioned why our people never stayed around for groups like they did.
Makes you wonder doesn't it. We are supposed to love the breed...all of
them and all of us.
Marie K. Hicks
Hightor German Shepherds
Acton, CA
www.geocities.com/hightorgsd
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