In a message dated 8/1/2005 4:59:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, AKeller97@xxxxxxx writes: passed the phone # on to her. She's down in Texas and her vet don't know what to do wtih possible toxic gut. That's scarey in itself. Again thank you all for helping. Lets hope everything goes ok for the gsd. ARlene Keller I want to thank Arlene and everyone that responded to her post, also to Dr. Krueger for his good and sound advice. After some mega doses of flagyl and a good flushing IV, Expresso is doing great. But I must say, it is very scary that so many vets really do not have a clue. I had started to build a confidence up with this particular vet, but realized after 2 hours in his office, he had no idea what he was dealing with. Gets bad when you have to tell your vet what to do - I told him I needed flagyl, told him to do an xray. For anyone that suspects toxic gut, it is imperative to get a large dose of flagyl (250 mg to every 8 lbs) into the dog as quickly as possible, following up with fluids, IV. This particular vet did not think fluids were necessary, just diagnosed a stomach ache!! I had asked for him to do an exploratory to determine if I had mesoteric torsion. He said he was about to close and was too tired at this point to do it, maybe in the morning!! I started an IV at home and continued to treat the dog with flagyl and reglan..... Anyway - he is well, eating and almost back to normal. I am lucky this time..... Molly Trillia German Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================