It does not matter why they did it then. It can't be changed. The Board can vote to send the change to the membership and they can vote. Joan F. Fox website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 Cell: 440-759-4119 >________________________________ > From: Erika A. Buckley Gmail <tamaringsd@xxxxxxxxx> >To: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:17 PM >Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responses to Updating the White GSD > > > >Knowing can make the difference. > >Heck, to this day researchers, etc., are digging up evidence from days gone by. Sometimes to prove a disputed subject. >Knowing could help solve the pros/cons. That could make the difference. > >Erika >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Joan Fox >>To: rautter001@xxxxxxxxxxx ; tamaringsd@xxxxxxxxx >>Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:30 PM >>Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responses to Updating the White GSD >> >> >>What difference does it make? It was done over 40 years ago. >> >> >>Joan F. Fox >>website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com >>17500 Haskins Rd. >>Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 >> >>Cell: 440-759-4119 >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Robert Utter <rautter001@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: "tamaringsd@xxxxxxxxx" <tamaringsd@xxxxxxxxx> >>>Cc: "<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 3:02 PM >>>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responses to Updating the White GSD >>> >>>I think a lot would like to know the real reason for the DQ. Lots of speculation. Shouldn't there be some sec. Report somewhere that has the language? >>> >>> >>>Sent from my iPad >>> >>>On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:19 PM, "Erika A. Buckley Gmail" <tamaringsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> I received several responses to my original post....thought I'd respond in one reply...... >>>> From what I've read, back in the 1940's/1950's the Germans cooked up the term "Fading color" to designate dogs of lighter colors with the allegation that such fading colors and white are signs of degeneracy. >>>> It was in the 1960's that we, (GSDCA), followed this allegation by DQ White GSD's. Yes, other issues such as White would blend in with sheep was claimed. (Grrr....Not all sheep are white....) >>>> Someone disagreed with my original post.....claiming Whites were not DQ'd for lack of knowledge. That they, the GSDCA, knew that White was not associated with health problems. And, that the White GSD was DQ'd by the majority vote of the membership because that is the way the members wanted it. >>>> It sure would be nice to know WHY they wanted it..... what was the reason for the GSDCA to DQ the White GSD? >>>> Another objection brought up was......why change our Standard.... just to have a bunch of people breed "rare colors". >>>> Of coarse "rare colors" definitely should be DQ'd. But why a White GSD....a White GSD is not a "rare colored" GSD. >>>> Years ago a Black GSD with a stark white chest, from neck to bottom, became a Champion.....he was sometimes referred to as being part of the breeder's famous "x" litter. This is an example of where are Standard would have to be more specific. OMG....could you picture the reverse....but our Updated standard could DQ it. >>>> Again, why was the White GSD DQ'd? WHY? Time to Update our Standard? Were the White GSD's wrongfully DQ'd. If so, it's time to change. >>>> I personally would not breed to a White because my Preference are the dark blk/tans & blk colored. >>>> Erika >>>> ===========================================================================>>>> POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. >>>> >>>> Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. >>>> >>>> ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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