[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Often Justifying the all breed
- From: "billie" <arelee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:35:05 -0800
I am trying to "catch up" on the list mail as well as the other emails I
receive. So if my post is redundant I apologize.
So many things have changed regarding specailty clubs and all breed clubs,
at least in the area that I live, which is Northern California.
Foremost is the point system isn't anywhere near what it was 10, 20, 30
years ago. We no longer see regional specailty shows that require 2 judges.
This was common in the 60's and 70's. Some clubs automatically chose two
judges. There was no need to wait to see if the entry requied two, it was
just an understood fact.
Some of the more prominent Kennel clubs also had two judges. Santa Barbara
KC was a benched show and if often drew 4-5 points.
I was and still am a member of Diablo Valley GSDC. Our club worked with Del
Valle Dog Club of Livermore when Del Valle was a new club. My husband and I
were active in Del Valle as well, we were there from the beginnnings,
matches first show etc. I was able to co-ordinate judging assignments with
the show chairman of Del Valle. We always drew majors, had a large ring etc.
Del Valle has grown to one of the mjaor All Breeds in the US. They seldom
get a large GSD entry now becuase of date change and they cater to many
other specialty clubs, many have 3 -4 days of majors.
Several of our judges on this list have judged at Del Valle Dog Club in
Livermore, Ca.
The other specailty clubs did not like our breed's double handling and
there were often complaints.
All breed clubs that will support a specailty entry of any breed, need the
grounds, parking, ring size etc. etc., to get the big entires. Some can and
will do it, other's can't or won't.
Things began to change when all breed clubs as well as specailty clubs
wanted to hold their own back to back shows. This brought more shows to the
exhibators, and they made choices. Most exhibators during this transition
didn't have to wait several weeks for their next dog show fix. There were
always shows available.
I remember having our own open bitch in the ring, at an all breed shows with
a specailty judge, with 30 or 40 others. I remember a puppy's or a novice
dog at an all breed in a class of 15 -20, or more. Of course the point
system was different then, based on the entry compared to today. But it was
common to have larger entries.
In my opinion, I don't see that we will go back to that. I also don't think
many people would want to. While it may be nice to say, you won a Novice dog
class of XX number, if they garner the 15 points including 2 majors under
the correct number of judges they still add CHAMPION in front of their name.
Speaking personally of the champions we bred and owned, only one won all of
his point in the all breed ring. He was red and black, good temperament etc.
He was just adequate moving, but clean coming and going,full mouth, correct
bite, handsome standing, etc. Another one won all of her points at
specailty's, finished quicly at a young age. She was in my opinion our best
mover, but could have been cleaner going away. Bottom line the majority won
in both rings, under a knowledgeable judge in a decent ring.
Beryl Eshom
Arelee GSD
Davis, Ca.
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