In a message dated 5/27/2010 12:43:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, v_harrington@xxxxxxxx writes: Going back and reading the rules, if the Veteran Class winner is a champion of record it CAN be awarded GrCh points. Oh well, back to asking the steward if the Best Veteran is a champion A Show Secretary out here (Eileen Parr) asked the AKC about what to do if the judge awards the Veteran GC points and she was told they would know if the Veteran is a Ch or not when the show records were sent to the AKC.....in other words they hadn't figured it out yet. viv ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================