[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OFA Cardiac Requirements

  • From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
  • To: kthalfen@xxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:13:52 -0500 (EST)

Katie -
 
Thank you for thoroughly explaining this so all would understand.  I am the 
"lister" who has the GSD with an "innocent" heart murmur.  Yes, she has an OFA 
Cardiac number.   Yes, she had an ECHO done and was cleared by a cardiologist.  
And, since we own her brother, we took him to have an ECHO done, too.   We 
decided that was the best way to be sure all of our bases were covered.  He was 
normal.   We also notified the breeder, and the other littermate owners we have 
contact with.   
 
BTW - this bitch had been to our vet on several different occasions, and we 
were never told there was a heart murmur.  It was discovered, by a 
cardiologist, at an annual health clinic.   


 


 

Barb Hively - PA
DNA.  It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd



-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Halfen <kthalfen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gsd list <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 10:26 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] OFA Cardiac Requirements


Just a quick explaination on OFA cardiac testing because I do these.  The 
ertification can be done by a general practitioner, a specialist, or by a 
ardiologist.  If your dog is to get certified by a general practitioner like 
yself, the dog is auscultated and as long as no murmur or abnormal heart rate 
r rhythm is heard, then I can certify your dog's heart.  If I auscultate a 
urmur or abnormal rhythm then the dog is required to see the cardiologist to 
et OFA certified.  A dog with a heart murmur can only be certified if an 
chocardiogram is done on the dog and shows it has an innocent murmur.  This 
ype of murmur is caused by an increased or decreased blood flow, but is not 
elated to congenital heart disease.  In these cases the ultrasound of the heart 
erifies the dog does not have aortic stenosis, pulmonary stenosis, a valvular 
efect, regurgitation of blood through one of the valves, PDA, septal defects, 
tc.  Any of these congenital abnormalities would be picked up 
on ultrasound by the cardiologist and the dog would fail the test.  The cardiac 
est is taylored to the breed as well, some dogs require an EKG and exercise 
ests to become certified.  We are lucky in German Shepherds to have heart 
efects that cause murmurs and can easily be screened. Hope that clears up the 
uestion about why a dog with a murmur could get certified.
Katie Halfen DVM
asamoko Shepherds
ww.casamoko.com
> 
  
 On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:36 AM, _Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxxx 
 (mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx)  wrote:
 
 
 
 Good answer Kay although I must say I was disappointed w/ the OFA  cardiac 
 test and if one were to be honest, the thyroid test should probably  be done 
 every year to mean anything.  (I just did a 10 1/2 year old,  his skin was 
 getting dry, came back fine, naturally didn't bother to send it  in).
  
 The reason I was disappointed w/ the whole cardiac thing? I learned  
 (through a lister, but it's actually true) that a dog w/ a murmur can still  
et 
 (cardiac) certified.  Scratching my head wondering what's the  point????
  
 I'd know at 6 weeks if a puppy had a problem.  I don't know  any serious 
 breeder who would keep let alone breed a dog w/ a heart issue.  The last time 
 I had a dog at the vet I had the vet sign their cert, verify  their chip # 
 and sent it along to OFA w/ $15.  I guess I'll start  doing that, but again, 
 for ME, pretty worthless.
  
 Kathy, member GSDCA,  DVGSDC
 Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd  Champions
 visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)   
 
                                          
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