HAVE NOT RECIEVED ANY MAIL SINCE 8-10- 08 CAN SOMEBODY HELP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liane Fossland" <lfossland@xxxxxxx> To: <bedkar@xxxxx>; <culzeans1@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Great Ones In my opinion, it's not only the handler's fault. I've had a perfect example with my bitch last year. She was used to a certain handler, but was shown by one who was just as qualified as the first. The bitch simply did not connect with the new handler and consequently did not show to her potential. The morale of the story: It does not matter how good the handler is, don't change the handler if the dog is uncomfortable with change. Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:00 PM To: culzeans1@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Great Ones Sorry, but I have to disagree with you Pam. That's like saying that anyone who has access to pencil and paper can write a great novel or draw a beautiful picture. I have watched, as an exhibitor and a judge, too many dogs get so poorly presented that you that you can't tell much about their structure or how well they can move.....we've all seen it. In other words, it's talent, and not everyone has it. -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com > From: Culzeans1@xxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:22:32 -0400> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V2 #1962> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > If a star is what you are talking about then it shouldn't matter who is on > the other end of the leash. Also if we were riding the dog then yes I would > agree with you, you need a person who can sit the "horse" and ride very well, > a good jockey. Too many dogs are finished only because of who their "jockey" > is. A star is a star because of how he or she is put together with > temperament a huge part of it. So it is not the same at all. We are either judging the > dog or we are not and if we aren't then why don't we just hand our money over > to the handlers, call AKC and tell them who we paid, whoever paid the most > for the handler gets the poi nts no matter what, we stay at home and just save > our gas money. Stars are stars and they shine no matter who is on the other > end. I use handlers as well, but I do not for one moment think that the > "jockey" is the reason my dog wins or loses. IT is all about the dog. Do you really > believe that a "star" would not go anywhere because "a fat tub of goo male > owner or a rich blue haired old lady" was taking it in the ring?> Sorry I just can't agree> Pam> > > In a message dated 8/9/2008 12:03:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:> When it comes to making a star, part of the formula is having a very good> jockey. You don't see any fat tubs of goo male owners or rich, blue haired> old ladies riding horses in the Kentucky Derby. A very good jockey is part> of the deal. Same with GSDs. Remember, we're talking STARS, not> just dogs that finish.> > > tom elkins> > Firethorn Temple> > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fi ts in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol..com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut0005000000 0017 )> > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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