All I can think of is.......WHY ARE MY PARAGRAPHS ALL MESSED UP??
WHAT am I suddenly doing wrong? Also.....ALL these years... I didn't even
know I was a Ms.
I have either BIG spaces between lines.......or gaps in the sentences.
Is my computer trying to match my brain? { :o)
I can't even argue with Ed and Evan without gaps.....sigh.... we need Paul to
"opine"..........
A THREE time Grand Victor.....and a bunch of maybe three time Selects
..........NAH!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
On Behalf Of edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
Carolyn Martello
Subject: Re: Die Grossmutter... 'not popular'
Ms. Martello raises a good question! ( she always does). I have changed my
proposal! Have three regional Nationals NOT on the same weekend, open to ALL
comers! You could have one dog/bitch win more than one regional..... With three
Nationals perhaps many folks can get to one or two of them!.... I say we do it
on a trial basis for 2018!... I see it now on the cover of the Review! " Flower
Boy's Dog goes GV in the West, in the Mid-West, and in the East!.... lol ... I
can tell you 1000 reasons why that won't happen... I have a hard time just
finishing a dog... Hell its only happened once! lol FB
From: Carolyn Martello To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, freelist
PMSubject: Re: Die Grossmutter... 'not popular'
SOOOOOoooooo if you had a "Regional" National..... how would that work???
Best dog in the East could not compete at a Western Regional National or Visa
Versa...or
dog in the middle or South?? SOOOOOooooo those of us in the Western R.
National area might never see that
awesome Eastern dog?
Wouldn't that make it pretty much of a "shoe in" for some dogs in some
Regions...but not necessarily
the absolute best dog "Nationally". It IS a National after-all? Yeah
Yeah...I know all about how it is THAT
Judges "opinion" for that year....but it seems it is also the "opinion" of
the membership and exhibitors that
it is THAT Judge they want to make that decision for that
year............?????
Is that REALLY what we want for the Breed....rather than simple REASONABLE
rotation?
Getting to a National will never be easy for most of us. To change the entire
agenda doesn't
always solve the real problems either IMO.
Working on doing what was voted on and decided WOULD HELP however! <G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 1:01 PM
To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Die Grossmutter... 'not popular'
10 or so years ago I ran for the Board( now that was NOT a great idea) at that
time I was in favor of having the National every year in the SAME location in
the middle of the country! A few years later the late great Dick Whalen ( great
man) got me to change my view on the subject!... And this is still my position
on having the National rotate, PROGRAM ALERT....ST Louis, St Louis, St Louis is
NOT a rotation!... But that's another sort of lie we all bought!... Anyway, if
we are to continue with rotation the bottom line is that there will be some
folks and dogs that just won't be able to get there.... How cool would it be to
have three regional Nationals all on the same weekend! You say it will never
happen?... Why not? FB
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------ Original Message ------
From: Carolyn Martello
To: ELG440@xxxxxxx, freelist
Sent: July 20, 2015 at 12:22 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Die Grossmutter... 'not popular'
Sad to hear Evan say this. Hopefully this kind of issue will be addressed by
the Board and the Chair.
MANY of us on the West Coast and surrounding States cannot fly a dog to a
National on the East
Coast ( airline issues ) and it is beyond reason to drive that far with dogs.
MANY on the East Coast and surrounding States cannot fly a dog to a National on
the West Coast
( airline issues ) and is beyond reason to drive that far with dogs.
It just seems simple enough to consider locations that are at least "doable".
Someone will always
be unhappy that the National is not closer. We simply cannot accommodate
every State or locale.
( I would love it in Sacramento, or S.Fran, Ca....but alas ) ....and as Jane
says...International Falls, Minn.
does not work well either... <G> We 'wish'....<G>.....but we cope.
Middle ground seems the only reasonable answer. Colorado, Utah, St. Louis,
Kansas...maybe Kentucky?
Sure would save the Club a small fortune also....compared to flying all over
looking for sites that will not
really work well.....and please a few.
I know this is not a "popular" comment to those who want it in their area..but
our major concern if we care
about the National and the future of our Breed.....it should be availability to
everyone....WITH DOGS!!
If we don't see some amazing East Coast dogs because it is in the extreme
West...or we don't see some
of the amazing West Coast dogs because it is in the extreme East.....it is
simply OUR OWN LOSS.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
On Behalf Of Evan Ginsburg (Redacted sender "elg440@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)Sent:
Monday, July 20, 2015 7:32 AM
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Die Grossmutter...
Die Grossmutter would have loved to meet and would have taken an immediate
liking to Carolyn Martello.
Who wouldn't?
I have just decided that I won't take a dog to the National any more. I can't
take two days to drive each way. I won't put a dog in a crate in the car for a
week. I won't put them on a plane that has to change airports, and trust they
will be safe. And, I won't spend $2,000.00 to ship a dog.
If I do go this year, Kierk will not be there for his AOE. That, to me, points
out the problem with locations. When you combine the cost of shipping with the
inconvenience of driving, our National may be outdated.
Everyone will make their own decisions. It may be the result of having gone to
40 or so Nationals already, but in the end, my decision is to no longer take
dogs half way across the country to show them.
I think I have a bad attitude, but it is mine own. I can't imagine what my
grandmother would have said about it. But, I know what Jane will day.
Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jane E Kerner < <mailto:jkerner@xxxxxxxxx> jkerner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: The List < <mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Carolyn Martello < <mailto:Marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Jul 19, 2015 7:42 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Die Grossmutter...
Die Grossmutter would have loved to meet and would have taken an immediate
liking to Carolyn Martello.
So practical a woman, that Carolyn, even if she isn’t fluent in German and does
not hail from Deutschland.
Die Grossmutter often said this:
“A person needs to be able to get to some where with their German Shepherd Dogs
in #500 crates with little hassle .... .....and it needs to be possible.”
Liebchen, she said:
“Do not expect to have a GSDC of America National Specialty Show held in
International Falls, Minnesota any time soon. Be prepared to drive the
Autobahns with your hunds in the vehicle with all the luggage, even if you do
need to cross the Rocky Mountain range now and again. The United States is a
very big country.”
What a woman, Die Grossmutter.
Loved her.
Jane Kerner
