In a message dated 12/8/11 11:32:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx writes: I have ordered the tests, so we shall see, but if the test is giving clear results to dogs who are producing affected offspring, what's the value anyway? Therein is my problem. When we get a dog with DM tested markers from two parents who tested clear, what do we do? I have heard it is not possible, but I remember that from clear hips in the past. I also remember a friend of mine who when elbow x-rays came out, tested all her bitches. They all tested with bad elbows and she put them all down. Within two years she was out of the breed. Assume just for the sake of discussion that Gotti, Ben and Mephisto had the markers for DM. Should all of the progeny be put down? I guess that is a personal opinion and can't be answered. As the breeder and owner of Big Ben, I guess I can ask that question. I do not have the answer. A good friend of mine, Liz, said it is just a factor to use in breeding. I tend to think she is right. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================