In a message dated 12/13/2005 10:47:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx writes: You will notice that the breeders and exhibitors who frequent and win in the all breed ring will go to the ends of the earth to prove the all breed judge who put them up or finished their dog has a better eye than Capt. Max even though he or she spent their life breeding and showing Pom.s The last ARBA show I did, (I know, I keep on bringing that up, but the last all breed show I judged I followed Helen Fisher the day before), there was a breed with an entry of one. I thought it would be easy, since the entry was I believe from one of the European countries, (the breed) and when I looked at the dog, I realized it seemed to be a perfect match to the standard. Just because I was curious and I had never seen the breed before, I went to the table and read over the standard again while looking over the entry. Yes, it matched exactly, and of course won BOB. After the class I went up to the owner and told her how much I liked the dog, and how good it appeared to me. She thanked me, and then told me she had just come back from Europe and the dog I judged was the number one dog in it's country that year. She had convinced the owner to allow it to be shown in the United States for one year. One time when I judged the French Mastiff, they had brought over to judge the day before me, the top French Mastiff breeder from France. They had an entry of 86. I studied the standard for a month before the show, and avoided watching what the other judge did. When I finally picked my BOB dog, a little woman ran up to me and said with a deep French accent, "You did exactly what I did yesterday, you really understand the breed." Some times you luck into it. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================