In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:28:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx writes: The current standard by Orie Nordness is one and the same. As I understand it, and I may be wrong, (shut up Paul) the Standard was set by the Parent Club. Ordie Nordness only did the Illustrated Standard. The Standard is a word picture of what the breed should strive for. The Illustrated Standard is an interpretation of the Standard by one person, accepted by the board, and distributed to the general public to show what was an interpretation of the written word. Aren't we glad Ordie did it rather than Salvador Dali? Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================