They can come forward if they choose to and publish their own names or if the archives go back to last years NIS talks anyone can look up all the posts and all the talk about this.........its the same thing only a different year!! Nothing has changed much in the illustrations from a previous edition i saw..................go look at it behind the secure members area and then you can let us know if they used your input............ Your name and Dave Rinke's is on there so i assumed you had alot of input into the project. Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx To: almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Illustrated Standard my last words In a message dated 8/17/2005 10:37:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Fred, 1 year ago there were several people willing and wanting to be a part of the committee..........I know one person for sure who was put down publicly for questioning the illustrations and wanting to help. She actually has some great ideas and some illustrations were worked on, but nothing ever became of the people who wanted to help, so what more can people do when noone wants any parts of their input ?? Grovel and beg ? You can't offer to help when noone wants you.......... How about getting the list of people willing to take on the project and puplishing that list of names on the list. Then no one can deny that there are people willing to volunteer their time free of charge to this project. Fred PS I don't want to be on that list of names. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================