In a message dated 12/2/2005 11:04:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hcj2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: The big problem and I mean BIG PROBLEM is ,when hips show up bad at a vets office, the breeders are not sending those x-rays to OFA. This creates a false positive in statistical data!!!!!! If they only get the ones the local vets think will pass, it looks like we are improving our breed.... Very true, and even with that, one in five that ARE being sent in don't pass...not exactly impressive statistics...I don't have the answer. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================