In a message dated 11/14/05 3:14:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pmick@xxxxxxxxx writes: I haven't seen anyone belittle sidegait at all. You must be reading different posts. I like what Peggy said, and I have been waiting for someone talk about the Emperor's New Clothes. Let's face it. If your dog can move, you are going to get a good look from the judge. You may not win, without breed type, but nothing gets the eye of a good judge faster than correct side gait, with a period of suspension. That being said, while it might not be the only thing to consider, or maybe not the most important, it is the best way to know you are going to be considered for points. I will always show a dog that can move, and have never shown one that has lots of breed type, but cannot properly cover the ground. I, like the rest of us, want all the elements, but movement is what is going to get you into the circle with those being considered for the points. Think about it. After the temperament test, after the teeth and testicles are checked. After the dogs are taken down and back, what does the judge do to make his/her final decision? It is not posing the dogs to look at breed type. They are gaited, and gaited, and then the decision is made. Then they are gaited again in winners to award points. Isn't that how we keep score? Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================