____________________________________ Carol I'm not insulting the Judge. I'm saying the comment did.. To say that you know JD will give BIS to Jimmy. Is saying that he wont look at any other dogs. and makes it sound like it was cut and dried. I've done a lot of winning under JD. and have a tremendous respect for him as I do Jimmy, Helen, Geneva, Dallas and many more. To say I felt that Geneva SHOULD take the Breed and if she takes the Group would stand a good shot at the show would have sounded much better. Carol, your terminology was correct in saying that JD PROBABLY would have given Geneva BIS . Of course I think that would have been wonderful!!! I'm saying with all the new people we have in the sport, we MUST be careful with our terminology. Gee, they might even get to thinking that there COULD be Politics in the Dog world. I've heard all the sour grapes against Geneva from so many losers. I still ask those people what it is that they don't like about her.I can never get an answer that I can agree with. If I had been judging the Breed , I PROBABLY would have put her up. Can't say I would because I don't know what else was there and how everyone showed etc. If I were judging the Group, I KNOW she would be considered however there is a ring full of other Herding dogs that are just as beautiful as her. When you are judging the Group you are a Group judge not a GSD judge. So other than me loving GSD's and Especially Geneva , I see no reason why THAT Aussie didn't deserve the win just as well. I really felt it was toss up between Geneva and the Aussie. Geneva should not have been 3rd in that line up. But that is MY opinion. Judi ____________________________________ The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. _AOL Music takes you there._ (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ____________________________________ The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. _AOL Music takes you there._ (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================