[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Freds post

  • From: Cyndi Flautt <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:42:30 -0500

What/ who was the driving force behind the vote?  I don't remember hearing 
anything about it until recently. Was a need for change discussed in the past 
and I just missed it?  Seems like the motion/vote was out of the blue... or 
maybe I'm just out of the loop! (highly possible!)
Cyndi. 


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On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Evan, no one is limiting them from AKC awards.  Please re read our  mission 
> statement.  Awarding dogs w/ DQs ANY award of merit from a breed  club that 
> is SUPPOSED to uphold and value the standard flies in the face of the  
> mission statement.
> 
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)   
> 
> 
> In a message dated 3/14/2012 11:28:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> ELG440@xxxxxxx writes:
> 
> In a  message dated 3/14/12 8:22:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time,   
> vicki.roye@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> Actually  the Board said ANY dog  regardless of DQ could win the Victor 
> titles. If we  make the Board's  ruling consistent with the Parade of 
> Greats than 
> any dog  meeting the  other criterias would be able to be presented in the 
> Parade of   Greats. ILPs too??
> 
> 
> 
> I know I am known as a Flaming Liberal, but  I see no reason that if a dog  
> wins the scores by doing the best  work, he/she should not be recognized as 
> the  winner, in all  ways.
> 
> If a top herding dog has a hanging ear, should we disqualify that  dog from 
> 
> being recognized as our top herding dog?
> 
> If a dog  will not sit and stay, we don't say he can't be the Grand  
> Victor.  
> 
> 
> I know we want all dogs to meet all standards. But it is time to  admit 
> that 
> performance is judged on performance. Conformation is judged on  
> conformation. It  is great when a dog can win both, or a better way  to say 
> it is, the 
> owners have  time to compete in both, but our time  limits exist. Some of 
> us 
> still have to  work, and we choose the venue  to show in.
> 
> A top winning dog should not be judged on another standard,  (not the GSD  
> standard, but the standard of the competition).   
> 
> I sure appreciate Vicki's positions, but I don't understand why we,  the  
> conformation exhibitor wants to limit the obedience  people?  If we decide  
> to 
> do that, then let's stop allowing dog  to enter that won't qualify to  win.
> 
> And, it Fred, not Feed!   I changed the heading to reflect that. But  then 
> again, I am very  obedient in all things.
> 
> 
> Evan  Ginsburg
> Asgard German  Shepherds  
> http://www.asgardgsd.com/
> Where Type Movement and  Temperament  come together  
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