Evan said The German shepherd is built to run and herd sheep. ******************************************** @ Evan Can I respectfully disagree with you Evan? The GSD was not built to run because it does not have straight shoulders, straight pasterns, or tuck up like dogs built to run. Look at Dobes and the sight hounds and the American Foxhound. It takes more time for a GSD with a properly angulated shoulder moving correctly with shoulder opening to extend its front than a dog with a straight shoulder. Properly angulated pasterns help to cushion the pounding from moving at a trot, which the standard says is the correct gait for the GSD. If you have ever ridden a horse with straight pasterns at a trot you know what I'm saying. @ Sara- Lori Nickeson had Ch. OTCH Debrut's Different Drummer. He was a beautiful dog with the highest AKC obedience title. Just recently the first GSD dual champion, AKC Ch and a herding Ch passed away. I believe there is now another dual Ch out there by the name of Alex. And of course Helen Gleason had Ch ScH 3 Gator. @ Doc Zoe The conditional class was suggested for dogs with advanced working titles, not RN's or CD's. Diane Sent from my iPhone ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================