[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: For those future and cuttent judges?
- From: Peggy <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 19:19:10 -0400
First, every judge in the world makes a mistake sometimes. If Fred's
gone this long without making one, more power to him.
Second - the AKC's position on withholding ribbons is that if you give a
first place, the dog can compete for Winners, and while the judge can
withhold all points, it is better to do it early on and not encourage
the owners to continue showing the dog (from which you withheld) any
more, or at least until the problem is solved. If it's temperament, it
might be resolved...if it's structure or some other thing, it may or may
not ever change.
Third - Joan didn't say what the major faults were. If type is the
judge's first consideration and the dog has decent type, it probably
should get a ribbon. Maybe accompanied by a quiet, private discussion
with the handler or owner about those faults... As stated, I could
not answer the question, as it would depend on many things.
Peggy
LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx wrote:
>I'm not a judge, but if there were no other "decent type" German Shepherds
>in the ring, I'm thinking I would give a ribbon. I never understood the
>concept of holding back a ribbon - you hold back first and award only second
>(& 3rd or 4th). So the dog is SECOND to who ???
>
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>I will give you my reasons for not giving first place to a dog with a major
>fault such as Tempermant. If you are judging a fairly large entry by the time
>you get to Winners class you may forget that say the 9/12 dog was faulted for
>Temperament. What happens then if you forget and award it the points. If you
>give the animal a second then it does not come back in the ring for winner, no
>room for error. As just pointed out by Fred in his mistake which can happen
>to any of us as judge we could all make the same mistake that he did.
>
>Something for you to think about if you decide to judge unless you feel that
>would not make those mistakes. <G>
>
>Lee Brown
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