dated 8/24/2005 8:23:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 8/24/2005 8:12:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, pruett@ma ine.edu writes: It is my understanding that only AKC judges are allowed to observe other judges from inside the AKC ring. For example, if I were approved to judge GSD's and wanted to add shelties, then I could observe a sheltie judge from inside the ring. But, if I were not approved to judge any breeds, than I wouldn't be allowed inside the ring to observe. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. This information is entirely correct. Also permission of the judge that you observe under and permission of Show Chairman,as well.But since the AKC considers a Futurity as simply a match,all bets are off. The Futurity Chair and GSDCA Board can make the rules.. Not having knowledge of good procedure it the one of the things that really delays the judging---where you find that it takes a full day to judge a 100 dogs.At a AKC show,even with taking pictures as you go along,it would take about 4 hrs. Specialties and Futurities have more leeway, but still 5 to 51/2 hrs is a reasonable expectation,but some judges have drawn it out all day. Of course you always have the problem of prompt decision making. Just because you have a "good eye",doesn't mean you are a capable judge,if you can't be decisive. This is a learning procedure,so when you decide to make changes on the requirements, please keep that in mind. Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================