I am against PAWS....and what I wrote has NOTHING to do with it ....what-so-ever! Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx To: helen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Breeding stock? long This from another list: Very apropos to Breeding Stock, I think Names deleted except for Loretta, publisher of a sporting dog magazine. This is what Senator Santorum and the Animal Rights groups backing PAWS are counting on... that people will say: "I don't breed that many litters, so it won't affect me"; "Anyone who breeds that many litters should be regulated to be sure they are doing it "right""; "The prospect of regulation will discourage hobby breeders from breeding so much and that is good". On the surface, these thought may have merit. However, the problem with PAWS is that the Animal Rights groups involved have come out and said that it is only a "first step" in enacting their aganda goals. IF PAWS does pass, you can bet they will work dilligently to lower the number limits. They won't stop until they are successful at putting an end to all pet breeding and ownership. There is another part of PAWS that states a person is a "dealer" if they sell "hunting, security or breeding dogs". This could mean that anyone who sells a breed of dog that hunts or a non-spayed/non-neutered pup/dog would be considered to be a "dealer". It won't matter whether or not YOU actually hunt your dog - just that the breed is considered to be a hunting breed. It is particularly alarming because right now, AKC is in the process of changing their puppy registration forms. The box on the puppy registration form that a breeder checks if they want the pup to be sold on a limited registration is now darkened in with diagonal lines. Current forms are transitional, according to a woman in AKC's customer service department who I spoke with. But the forms will soon be all limited registration as a default - unless the breeder fills in some special numbers on the form. All breeders will soon be getting a breeder ID number from AKC. Now consider this. A breeder sells a pup with full rights... well, AKC has it in writing that you sold an intact pup thus, YOU ARE A DEALER!!! PAWS is not simply a law to deal with the "puppy mill" problem as AKc and others promoting it are claiming. It is a poorly written piece of legislation that has the potential to be very dangerous to our involvement with our dogs. Unfortunately, most of the Senators and Representatives are under the impression that it is just about "puppy mills" and they are lending their support. We must stop PAWS. ~Loretta ** The above was in response to the email below.... I don't doubt that there are a few people who breed more than six litters a year who are relatively responsible breeders. It would be close to a full-time job to breed more than six litters a year and to do it right, however, what with all the puppy care, socialization, owner screening and keeping track of and following up on increasing numbers of dogs one is responsible for every year. (And taking back all the puppies who don't work out in their original homes). And, sadly, lots and lots of people who breed more than six litters a year are NOT responsible breeders. Nobody is saying that it will be illegal to breed more than six litters a year under PAWS, just that people who do it should expect closer government scrutiny. I think that is a good thing. It will absolutely discourage some "hobby" breeders who breed to make money and who are not remotely doing it right, while not affecting the majority of responsible, caring breeders a bit. As to your comment that people should be allowed to breed more than six litters a year "provided that they do a good job of it," I agree. Regulation and inspection is a way to determine whether or not they are doing a good job of it. In my experience, the VAST majority of people who breed more than six litters a year don't do a very good job of it. *^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================