I am never amazed or hurt that other people in other breeds do not like the look of my breeds (GSD and CARDI) - that is personal taste. I do not waste my time trying to explain that the angulation of our breed allows for better rear drive to do the miriad of jobs that a GSD does: herding, protection, search and rescue, leading the handicapped, protecting me from the garbage can alien I do not waste my time feeling hurt or defensive when they say our breed looks crippled(Hey they passed their OFA and work!) There is probably nothing you can say to other breed owners that theywill accept As for USA SCHUTZHUND, they hate a dog that is dual registered, because it is dual egistered. THE WDA dogs are as good and maybe better than those of USA. We share a team together at the WORLD TRIALS. And we do well competing at World events. I see no reason for another conditional class (working dog class be in a dog with an HT, CD or SCH). A dog either fits the standard or it does not. Some of title both ends, others only one end. Usually this ahs to do with money and time constraints, nor trainability A little more patience with newbies would be appreciated. I saw more defensiveness than smugness, but then email it is a little hard to read than if you are in person. DOC ZOE ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================