In a message dated 8/16/2005 1:34:48 AM Central Standard Time, marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: What is the harm in allowing Breeders and Judges and Exhibitors....MEMBERS... to at least see the new improved version before it is put to a vote?? This is one of the single biggest driving forces in our visual on our Standard and our daily decisions, whether Judging, chosing pups or entering shows. RUSHING it through and forcing the Board to make an up or down vote on a mediocre or bad version will be the single biggest mistake we can allow as an entire membership of 4,000. WHY alienate a membership and waste the money if it happens to be just mediocre or even bad?? I don't get it.....when did we run out of TIME? No time for the membership?? GEEEEEZ.......even a space program has to be scrapped occasionally...... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com I sure agree with that. We are all members, we should have a chance to input into this, we show to a lot of judges that come from other breeds. We want to make certain they have the right tools to evaluate our dogs. I haven't rec'd copy yet, but understand it is not what we understand to be desired angulation. I don't want a 4 square dog. I don't want one with the angulation of just any other breed. I want OUR angulation, movement, structure, and most of all, a great suspended trot with transmission from the rear. But then, what can I say, a lot of the other breeds just look stilted in movement compared to a gsd. I want everyone to see the power in a spectacular moving gsd. If I wanted a square dog, with four point movement, I'd get a bird dog. I want bird dog people to be able to see and appreciate the difference. Hopefully most of us already know what it looks like. Ann Gray ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================