Hi All; In reply to where I got my figures for our AB show, even when not the Show Coordinator, I did the P/L for the shows. The Show Chair who spent all the money had 19 Judges on our panel not including Performance and brought them in from all over to Judge a few breeds each day. The 25K included, hotel, airfare, limo from the airport and meals, remember we are a two day show. I even had handlers I know asking me if why we had so many Judges. This is why we now run the Club as a business and try to stay within a budget, if we did no do that we would be out of business and for the last few years we have made a profit if not a huge one, at less we aren't in the hole. I do not do the Performance Judges, but I stay on the OB Chair to make sure we stay with in the guidelines of fees and being able to use for OB one day and Rally the next. But some performance Judges want fees of $150.00 per day or more and do not at our show Judge more that 50-70 dogs a day. These are all the items that add up and that is why each year I had out the P/L at a meeting so that our membership can see where we are spending the money and suggest were we might save the next year. Also the Delegates are not being charges the AKC Judges Fee, as they are not allowed to charge a fee for judging a show. Cathy Kelstar fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx EarthLink Revolves Around You. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================