Here is something to chew on. I approach this as a horse show judge too!. In dog shows, a judge is only going to make 3-4 people happy on that given day.. Winners Dog Winners Bitch Best of Breed Best Puppy... In an entry of 60, thats about 56 people that will have an opinion some way or the other.. So, in short, why worry? Hell, do what you want to and be damned with the rest. In horse shows, my friends always ask, "is it ok to show to you?" I said,"Sure, by all means, Im still gonna be honest and you damn well better bring me what I like and it better perform. Im going to be harder on you because you know better than the person who doesnt know me!" My friend brought a certain horse to me that I discovered in another barn, she rode her tail off in about 6 classes and won all 6 and for the championship she took it home. In my opinion, it was because it was the best horse in the class, my friend just happened to ride him. Now, ringside said, "Well, the only reason why he put up that horse is because Fran Cole owns it..." No, the only reason why Fran Cole won the class is because it was the best horse. She got the gate with her black mare in 4 classes before she realized I didnt like her. I still went to her barn after show party and we are still friends to this day. But she shows me what I like and when its done, if shes the best horse, she does well. On another note. I have mortal enemies that I have given championship wins to and blues. I dont care if Satan himself was sitting in the saddle, he had the best horse, he or she (which will remain nameless) was winning the class.. Period. You gotta look at it this way, ringside is gonna talk regardless. Youre a dumb crook if you do put up your friends with a good dog, and youre an arse if you didnt put up your friends with a mediocre dog.. so just cut your losses, do what you wanna do because when it is all said and done, the one handing out the ribbons has to be able to face him/herself in the morning.. and thats all that really matters. Mike Michael Lynch BlackHawk Farms,LLC www.BlackHawk-Farms.com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================