If I am correct (and I may not be), the Temperament Test for Dobes is necessary for the dog to attain the highest award given them. It is beyond a CH and likely beyond our Select and probably beyond the AOE. Why couldn't the GSD do something like that? Continue with the CH, select, and even the AOE as it is now. Add the stringent Temperament test (maybe not the same test as it is now) as something to work to achieve and that would show the highest level of proper temperament in our dogs. A real goal that would be for the "total" dog - CH, Select, AOE and-------whatever name given to it for courage, stability etc. earned from the test. Anne, TN ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================