[sac-forum] Re: For brave observers

  • From: <jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx>
  • To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:00:32 -0400

As AJ said, don't waste your time on stuff you can see from here! At 19 deg 
latitude, my goal was "how low can you go!"  It's really kinda weird to see 
Sagittarius so high and Polaris so low in the sky. Then you look down to the 
south thinking, "what the heck is that", as it is the unfamiliar stuff on the 
clean unused pages of your star charts...

Have fun,

Jimmy Ray

---- Debbie Roth <debbieselvis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
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> Thanks everyone for the sites and info. I printed it up and will check these 
> things out.  So many things to do there and so little time. We will take a 
> jeep up the volcano, if we do that.  Going to be on the run to get lots of 
> things in.
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> 
> Debbie
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> From: saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:29:02 -0700
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> Debbie,
> The trip up Haleakala is worth the cost. The views are spectacular and the 
> altitude gets you above most of the things we try to avoids when observing. 
> Just remember it’s at about 11,000 feet, if memory serves to take it easy or 
> you’ll be out of breath pretty quick.
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> Don’t know if it’s the same outfit that we went with all those 18 years ago, 
> but I actually knew more than the guides. I gathered that they get basic 
> training to point out the really obvious stuff since most of their clientele 
> wouldn’t know the big dipper if it hit ‘em on the head, so for the most part 
> hey don’t need an extensive knowledge of the sky. But don’t let that stop 
> you, you can still enjoy some really nice sky and some parts of it you don’t 
> get to see well from here, and you’ll be the hit of the show!
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> Clear Skies 
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> Rick Tejera 
> Editor SACnews, 
> Public Outreach Coordinator 
> Saguaro Astronomy Club 
> Phoenix, Arizona 
> www.saguaroastro.org 
> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx 
> K7TEJ 
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> From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of debbie roth
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:55
> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
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> Thanks.  I am still looking some up, but I found 2.  One for $25.00 top of 
> the Hyatt every night.  The other is top of Haleakala volcano,dinner, sunset 
> view and telescope and astronomy lessons for $75.00.  And some think our 
> yearly fees are high.
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> From: acrayon@xxxxxxx
> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:17:48 -0700
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> Jimmy, glad you had a good time, despite the dewing factor.
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> Debbie, perhaps you can find an astronomy group and make contact with them 
> before leaving.  I've seen several web sites of astronomy clubs and 
> organizations in Hawaii but am not sure exactly where.  Let us know what you 
> find out.
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> AJ Crayon
> Phoenix, AZ
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: debbie roth 
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> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:55 AM
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> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
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> I will be going to Maui in Sept.  I am thinking of looking up an Astronomy 
> group while I am there.  Hope I have the time.  Aloha 
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> From: jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx
> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:55:47 -0700
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> The humidity was always around 65 % to 70 %. If your optics were the least 
> bit cooler than ambient or as soon as the sun went down things would start 
> dewing up pretty quickly. At times I had to keep the hair dryer close at hand 
> to keep things clear. Sometimes the ship would dew up so much that I could 
> actually “skate” around on the upper decks in just my tennis shoes as it got 
> fairly slippery at times.
>  It was a blast! 
> Jimmy
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> From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of AJ Crayon
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:27 PM
> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
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> Ahhh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, you just know how to twist the knife don't 
> you.  And eloquently at that.  What scope did you have with you, the 20" SCT? 
> :))  Regardless of the humorous jabs it sounds like you had a good time, but 
> what did you mean by the "70° apart."  I missed something simple here.
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> AJ Crayon
> Phoenix, AZ
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> From: Jimmy Ray 
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> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:12 PM
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> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
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> Hi AJ,
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> Too bad you didn’t make your selection from; Grus, Indus, Pavo, Ara, Norma or 
> Telescopium which I spent time working last week.  How about a nice 
> observation of NGC 6397 in Ara made at sea just off the Lava flows on the big 
> island or some work around Beta Gru… (ain’t the Hawaiian Islands great!) ß 
> except the dewing over at 70 degrees part!
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> Aloha,
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> Jimmy Ray
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> From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of AJ Crayon
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:05 AM
> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
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> If worst comes to worst there's always my observations, but I'd prefer to use 
> ones sent in by SAC members.  Unfortunately it is the weather that makes it 
> difficult during this time of year.  But then everyone should look all over 
> the astronomy stuff for old, or even ancient, observations.  One place I'd 
> recommend is between your Ethos lenses. ;))
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> 
> AJ Crayon
> Phoenix, AZ
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: Richard Harshaw 
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> To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:59 AM
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> Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
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> “So far I've only received observations from Dick Harshaw.  Can't we do 
> better? :)”
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> I certainly hope so!!!!
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> Richard Harshaw
> Cave Creek, AZ
> President, The Saguaro Astronomy Club (2009)
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> From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of AJ Crayon
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:57 AM
> To: SAC Forum
> Subject: [sac-forum] For brave observers
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> Here's a list of objects for observing for those willing to give it a try for 
> this weekend. Naturally they are from the monthly Call for Observations list 
> and include Ophiuchus and Cygnus.  So far I've only received observations 
> from Dick Harshaw.  Can't we do better? :)
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> There seems to be more time for another pass at Ophiuchus.  This time we will 
> concentrate on globular clusters of varying magnitudes and concentrations.  
> Starting out one of the brighter ones is NGC6235, you should be able to 
> resolve some of the 14th to 16th mag stars – count them!  Take extra care in 
> locating the next 3 because there are 3 others witching 5°.  First of the 3 
> is NGC6293 and is a little brighter than the first one but about twice as 
> big.  Moving on to NGC6304, towards the southeast, check to see if the 
> brighter middle is noticeable.  To the northeast is NGC6355 with its 
> gradually brighter middle.  These 3 form an equilateral triangle about 3° on 
> a side and are part of the Herschel 400 list.  Moving on to a challenge is IC 
> 1257 a small, faint globular cluster.  It was identified as a distant 
> globular cluster in 1996.  Perhaps even more of a challenge is HP 1, which I 
> also will call small and faint.  As an aid to finding the globular its 
> location is 17 31.1  -29 59.  The HP is for Haute Provence, a French 
> Observatory.  The final globular is located almost between beta and gamma 
> Ophiuchi.  It is NGC6426, another Herschel 400 entry.  Can you detect the 
> elongation described in the NGC description?
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> With only two prior trip through Cygnus, now is the time for another.  This 
> list will include so not so well know objects and, for those their position 
> will be listed.  First we begin with the open cluster NGC6834 that is rather 
> small and a little compressed.  Next is the not so well known open cluster 
> Biur 2, located at RA 20 09.2, Dec +35 29.  From the SAC database it is 13’ 
> has 10 stars with brightest 7.9.  The asterism Red Necked Emu, located at RA 
> 20 13.8, Dec 36 30 is 45’ and has 29 Cygni as its tail.  What color stars do 
> you see and what is the PA.  Another open cluster that is off the beaten 
> trail is Ru 173, located at RA|20 41.8, Dec +35 33.  Its brightest star is 
> reported to be 8th mag, amongst the 20 others in its 20’ area.  Be sure to 
> include size, number of stars and the brightest in your observing report 
> along with any other interesting notes.  Moving from open clusters to 
> planetary nebula we start with NGC7008 and, although it is a Herschel 400 
> object, it is rather faint at mag 12 with a mag 13.9 central star.  Note its 
> elongation and estimate its PA.  Also what is the double star attached 
> towards the south?  The other planetary is NGC7027 is small and bright.  Skip 
> the mag 16.5 central star and its bizarre spectrum.  This last object is in 
> the Best of the NGC.
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> Enjoy! :))
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> AJ Crayon
> Phoenix, AZ
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