Is the design of the Xenar that much different that it would be referred to as a individual design? I thought it was a Tessar copy? As to the Xenotar, in the 50s and 60s, it was considered the ugly stepchild, now we say otherwise. I have had Xenotar and they were good but personally I think the Planar delivered slightly better results especially at the corners. Perhaps this is perception on my part, but this is what I see from numerous transparencies I have taken over the last dozen years. Peter K > On Tuesday, April 12, 2005, at 04:06 AM, Richard Knoppow wrote (edited): > The Xenar is a Tessar _type_ lens but is an individual design. > Actually, both Zeiss and Schneider made several versions of these > lenses over their lifetimes. > The f/2.8 Xenotar seems to be an exceptionally lens. I judge this > because it reproduces textures in a way typical of very good lenses on > a larger format. Also, this very fine detail holds up under > magnification so its not an illusion of some sort.