Yes Peter, I know you have one, they were manufactured from March 1963 to 1967, before the Mutar existed the Magnar and the Duonar as auxiliaries lenses. Carl Zeiss Oberkochen and F&H developed together both Mutars -Tele 1.5x and Weitwinkel 0.7- however Carl Zeiss optimized the Mutars optical design for the Planar 3.5/75 because it was the best seller on a Rolleiflex camera by that time. Both Mutars were offered like 3.5F and 3.5E3 original equipment (BII with 45mm between lenses), but Rollei also offered adapters for most Rolleiflex and Rolleicord models. There were issues about the bayonette size and the distance between the viewing and taking lenses and then there are adapters for B I (Rolleiflex and Rolleicord with 42mm between lenses) for BII with 42mm between lenses (i.e. 3.5E, 3.5E2)and for B III. The adapters for BI and BII can be used for both Mutars, Tele and Wide, but there are dedicated adapters BIII for each Mutar, you need the special one according your Mutar. For some models, the Mutar used with adapters produces a bit of vignetting for the viewing lens, however the image in the taking lens is right. Rollei recommended as a fundamental thing to use the Mutars from f5.6 and smaller apertures to maintain the image quality. For 75mm, the Mutar 1.5x increases the focal length to 110mm, for 80mm to 116mm. The Mutar 0.7 converts the focal length to 54mm and to 57mm for 75 and 80mm. All the best Carlos --- "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> escribió: > So the Mutars date only back to 1963? I did not know > that. Thought they had > them earlier but guess not. > > On 8/23/06, Carlos Manuel Freaza > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Coinciding with the production numbers, the 3.5F > was > > the best seller model and this condition was the > > reason the original Carl Zeiss Mutar lenses design > was > > optimal for the 3.5/75 six elements Planar (Report > II, > > page 24-502) on March 1963.- > > > > All the best > > Carlos > > --- Marc James Small <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > escribió: > > > > > At 11:29 AM 8/23/2006 -0700, Stephen Attaway > wrote: > > > > > > >I suspect many more 'e's were sold than all the > > > follow on > > > >'f's and 't's combined. Thats true of the M3/M2 > vs > > > later > > > >Leicas, because of the Nikon F. > > > > > > > >Anyone have sales figures? > > > > > > Here are the factory production figures: > > > > > > 2.8A 9,870 > > > 2.8B 1,250 > > > 2.8C 30,150 > > > 2.8D 20,100 > > > 2.8E 44,000 > > > 2.8F 82,800 > > > 2.8E2 7,000 > > > 2.8E3 2,025 > > > > > > 3.5C/E 43,000 > > > 3.5F (1) 20,000 > > > 3.5F (2) 11,500 > > > 3.5F (3) 121,000 > > > 3.5E2 (1) 2,000 > > > 3.5E (2) 2,000 > > > 3.5E3 5,035 > > > > > > Rolleiflex T 99,000 > > > > > > I realize that sales figures might be lower than > > > production numbers, but I > > > doubt if the differences would be great -- who > has > > > ever heard of basements > > > full of unsold Rolleiflex TLR cameras in the > > > basement? > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! > > > > > > --- > > > Rollei List > > > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > with 'subscribe' > > > in the subject field OR by logging into > > > www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Unsubscribe at > rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > with > > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > > > into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. > > Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, > > está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). > > ¡Probalo ya! > > http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas > > > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > -- > Peter K > Ó¿Õ¬ > __________________________________________________ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list