Try without the hardener first. Its sulfuric acid. Battery acid. Not great to breath the fumes. Its a little bottle you can just not use. Solution B. just use solution A is Ammonium Thiosulfite. Does not smell hardly at all but use rubber gloves anyway. If you are getting all kinds of scratching then then maybe give it a go. The hardener is even thought of as not archival by some folks as it makes it harder to wash the stuff out of the neg; or in this case the glass plate. I'd kill to be able to shoot glass plates. I believe the look you'd get would be notably sharper than sheet film; Even flat sheet film. Would be interesting to do a side by side comparison and see if it was really true. Its just feel like Atget or somebody. William Henry Jackson http://andrewsmithgallery.org/exhibitions/western/jackson.html Naturally I'd like to be shooting larger ones At least 5x7's if not 8x10's Mark William Rabiner > From: Robert Lilley <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:30:03 -0400 > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: RPA, Efke 25, fixer with hardener? > > Carlos, > > I use a non hardening fixer with Efke 9x12 cm sheet film all the > time. I am not familiar with a Domi-Plan tank as I use a 3100 series > Jobo drum which does not require guiding film into small slots or > racks. If you are careful you shouldn't have a problem. Why do you > want to use plate film? > > Rob > > On Mar 30, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote: > >> >> A friend of mine is sending me a box of Efke 25 film sheets 6.5cm x >> 9, this is the exact size for the Rollei plates adapter.I have read >> the emulsion is soft too much while wet and then Efke suggests a >> fixer with hardener. I have available to buy a Kodak rapid fixer >> with hardener, is it necessary really? or could I handle the wet >> film sheet with care avoiding to buy a new fixer?. BTW I have never >> used the Rollei plates adapter yet, I have never developed film >> sheets yet (I have a Domi-Plan tank)and I have never used hardener, >> modern emulsions don't need hardener, older ones -Efke 25 uses an >> Addox formula- needed one often. >> TIA >> >> Carlos >> >> >> Yahoo! Cocina >> Recetas prácticas y comida saludable >> http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list