[rollei_list] Re: Planar for Leica M and now Sonnar.

  • From: Nick Roberts <nickbroberts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:13:43 +0000 (GMT)

My Bessa R is out of alignement, but my T (nice camera) and R2 (very nice 
camera) aren't. The R2 gets a fair bit of use, too. Not as nice as my M3, but 
more practical.

Nick 

----- Original Message ----
From: A. Lal <alal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, 2 October, 2006 3:59:29 PM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Planar for Leica M and now Sonnar.


I have heard this complaint about the Bessa R's RF, never experienced it 
myself. Sold my R & Ts to get  R2s, a worthwhile upgrade IMO. When I had 
them my Ts  - underrated cameras, these - never showed any misalignment, nor 
do my R2s now. I not heard of RF misalignment  problems on the T or the R2s.

My point is that Bessa and Leicas can be repaired, but parts for  the Hexar 
(and Contax Gs too, I expect) are already hard to find and the position will 
only get worse in the future.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, 30 September, 2006 9:35 PM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Planar for Leica M and now Sonnar.


> IME the Bessa rangefinder is a poor design prone to losing vertical 
> alignment. Both my Bessa and sister Epson RD1 have vertical alignment 
> drift in their rangefinders. I also much prefer the film loading on Leica 
> M to the flimsy hinged door arrangements on lesser cameras. The best 
> rangefinder is on the M3 but the cheaper M2 system, which was standardised 
> on subsequently is eminently practical. I have used Ms for many years from 
> M3 to M6 and have never had any sort of problem with any of them, they are 
> not even all that expensive used nowadays.
> Frank
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: A. Lal <alal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, 30 September, 2006 4:01:55 PM
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Planar for Leica M and now Sonnar.
>
> Alas, all is not roses with the Hexar RF.
>
> According to a repairman I trust, the RF prism is easy to dislodge as it 
> is
> just glued in place. Then there is the matter of availability of parts 
> down
> the road. Bear in mind that this is an orphaned system; electronic orphans
> are much harder to keep going than mechanical ones. For these reasons I 
> sold
> both my Hexars last year.
>
> The Bessa R2/3/4 series is a more sensible choice for use with M and screw
> mount lenses. I find the Bessa R2 and T more than adequate as user bodies.
> The new R4 will be of interest to all  wide-angle M (and KM) mount lens
> owners.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, 29 September, 2006 9:15 AM
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Planar for Leica M and now Sonnar.
>
>
> Yeah Jerry,
>
> But then you have to use a Leica body. I 'd druther have a Konica Hexar 
> RF.
> Modern, fast, and sharp lenses.
>
> Peter K
>
>
> On 9/28/06, Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Marvin,
>>
>> They were very fine lenses. However an adapter to use them on
>> a Leica would cost more than the lens.  False economics.
>>
>> I druther have a Tele-Elmarit.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> redleica wrote:
>>
>> > Can anyone help me out. How do the old Contax rf lenses fare against 
>> > 60s
>> and 70s Leica RF glass. I am thinking of the 85mm Sonnar in particular.
>> > Thanks for your message,
>> > God bless You.
>> > Marvin.
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