I agree on eBay 3 have sold fron $123 to $185 and one for sale 3 days to go at $31, reserve not met. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Economics Are Not Always Practiced (Thank God) (was:"I prefer simplicity and ease of use...") > Jerry,=20 > > If you find a IIIA with the 50mm F1.8 lens for $20 please let me know. > The IIIM sells for $150 - $250 in the used market. We can make a > killing. > Youi may be confusing the S2 with the IIIA. > > Peter K > > On 4/15/05, Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Peter, >>=20 >> The Konica IIIA and it's Yashica equivalent, (Lynx) usually sell for >> $20, routinely at local camera shows. >>=20 >> Jerry >>=20 >> "Peter K." wrote: >>=20 >> > True, and in some cases the manufacturers failed in doing this. One >> > camera comes to mind, the Konica IIIM (M=3D3DMeter). I own one of these >> > and IMO among the best made rangefinder cameras period. It has what >> > was a very accurate parallax compensating viewfinder where the entire >> > frame actually shifts and changes size over the range of the focus. It >> > also has a superb fixed Planar-type 50mm F1.8 (also had the option of >> > a 48mm F2) and had the option of half-frame. >> > This camera had retail price in 1957 of around $US300. Needless to say >> > they did not sell many. There is a IIIA sans meter that sold a bit >> > better, but just not as collectible as the IIIM. It was eventually >> > replaced with a lower cost model that yielded profits. If anyone can >> > find a IIIM with half frame adapter and working meter you have a real >> > fine and collectible. >> > >> > Peter K >> > >> > On 4/13/05, Marc James Small <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > At 07:40 PM 4/13/05 -0600, Douglas Shea wrote: >> > > >By all appearances the economists were not consulted by Alpa during >> > > >= > its >> > > >heyday -- I have never detected any evidence of compromise. >> > >=3D20 >> > > The fact that some concerns, most notably ALPA, Zeiss Ikon, and >> > > Leitz= > , >> > > ignored economic realities does not mean that they still didn't try >> > > t= > o ke=3D >> > ep >> > > production costs down. All three of these concerns simply poured >> > > mon= > ey o=3D >> > ut >> > > of every orifice over the last decades of their existence or, in the >> > > = > case >> > > of Leitz, until it managed to enter into a series of rather rocky >> > > pro= > p-up=3D >> > s. >> > >=3D20 >> > > Had ALPA really attempted to produce a camera without "compromise", >> > > t= > hey >> > > never would have cranked out their first production model. Swiss >> > > ban= > kers >> > > are tighter than you can imagine and the coldness of their hearts >> > > wou= > ld >> > > make even a long-term inmate of the Soviet Gulags shiver. >> > >=3D20 >> > > Marc >> > >=3D20 >> > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 >> > > Cha robh b=3D3DE0s fir gun ghr=3D3DE0s fir! >> > >=3D20 >> > >=3D20 >> > >> > --=3D20 >> > Peter K >> > =3DD3=3DBF=3DD5=3DAC >>=20 >>=20 > > > --=20 > Peter K > =D3=BF=D5=AC >