At 11:51 PM 4/14/05 -0600, Douglas Shea wrote: >Thank you, as well Marc. I am sure that sales was of course their primary >concern, and in hindsight much has been said about what Alpa, and Zeiss as >well, "should" have done to survive. I'm not convinced that the survival of >either of these companies would have been easy; the market changed rapidly >and extremely fine build quality took a backseat to the emerging= electronics >from Japan -- and the Japanese are excellent marketers and tough >competitors.=20 To be a bit nit-picky (which I hate to do in light of your most kind words about the COMPENDIUM), Zeiss Ikon survived though it was forced by the Zeiss Foundation to leave camera production in 1972. And Zeiss is still the world's most significant optical firm and has seen massive profits for most of the years since it was no longer required to underwrite Zeiss Ikon's camera production. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=20 Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir!