Kurt and Allen have come up with some excellent ideas to increase the stability of one of the back pads, add a rail stand, and maybe create a little longer 1515 rail for it. I've strapped the long Super Uber rail to the outside of trailer several times now and it is a bit worrisome hauling it down the highway. I use lots of bungies!!! I'm looking forward to switching to the improved back pad. Richard Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:09:40 -0700 From: rtd@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Notice for Large Projects at September Launch Richard, If you're willing to manhandle that heavy beast into the small trailer all by yourself, then "more power to you".... In the interest of saving your back, however, I'd like to suggest that, before anyone asks you to do that, they should really consider whether it's truly necessary. Our normal back row pads -- the plain old "uber pads" -- are quite capable of supporting some VERY large rockets, and we do have 8' 1515 rails to fit them in the small trailer already. In fact, at our board meeting two nights ago, this very subject was discussed, and we're trying to come up with a way to make it completely unnecessary for anyone to be saddled with the job of moving that heavy beast into the small trailer for the monthly launches. Besides the weight of the base, there's the fact that the long rail simply is too long to fit inside the trailer, and therefore has to be stored in the storage container, and pulled out and strapped to hooks on the side of the small trailer before towing it. We can't just leave it out, as it's likely to be stolen, but we also don't want to make it difficult for J. Random Rocketeer to tow the small trailer. It needs to be "hook up and go" for it to be practical for us to get willing volunteers. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Sorry for hijacking the thread! Cheers, - Rick Dickinson On 8/22/2014 10:42 AM, R Dierking wrote: If you are planning a large project that will require the Super Uber pad (1515 rail, 12' long, for 5/16" rail buttons) you must post or let me know before Friday at Noon. Also, if you'll need a ladder or other important support equipment, you should bring it. Thank you, Richard Dierking (951) 526-5224