Microsoft is always changing API's and callback methods and such, so it could be that. Or it could be that Window Eyes is failing to keep up with the newer standards. We're always told as software engineers, if you depend on a dynamic library or API calls, if that developer upgrades the library or API, and some things become obsolete or they recommend changes, is always good to upgrade your programs and functions accordingly, so that you don't run into probs down the line. Remember this being a big issue in 2005 when I was a freshmen in college, there were some changes made by sun microsystems to the Java sdk, so certain programs we were coding just stopped sending output altogether. Some of us upgraded the sdk and learned the rootines and methods and worked it out that way; others, they made a work around instead of fixing the issue completely. Turns out that work around didn't work on the prof's system, so the program fell flat on its face! Unfortunately that was the mid-term program! I guess they learned the lesson... Regards, D!J!X! -----Original Message----- From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:59 PM To: realmusicians-freelists.org Subject: [realmusicians] window-eyes behaving Well, I just don't know wha to think. since I ghosted back and put we 7.2 refreshed version on my system, my screen-reader is my friend again. all sorts of little things, like list views not becomming unfocused, windows not disappearing, namely sonar, and snappy response. There's still the maddening thing about window-eyes loosing typed characters if you go too fast in emails and such, that's been around forever, but over all, atleast on my hardware, we 7.2 refresh seems to be the sweet spot. Now I wonder if somehow the new ui stuff is messing up performance in xp since that's what I'm using? Haven't tried we in w7 yet, but in a discussion with a friend, it was brought out that the ui stuff can sometimes cause problems with non ui stuff, is this true? Could it be that the older we is just a better match for the older os, maybe the advancing technology broke something for the old stuff inadvertently. What do the programmer types say? For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at www.affordablestudioservices.com or contact Chris Belle cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or Stephie Belle stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx for customized web design