hi listers well , yet another option for those who want to check it out. Steinberg is offering a fully functioning 30-day trial version of Cubase 5. it requires an activation using a USB ELicenser and an account on www.steinberg.net in the "my steinberg" section. those using GrooveAgent 2 or 3 probably have such a USB key. though I'm a Sonar fan , always good to have more options. enjoy! Roy. www.soundclick.com/tzackeek