[real-eyes] Re: question for a customer

  • From: "& Ruthie" <chaosynchronous@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:07:22 -0500

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Write me privately.  I have a couple.

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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Robert Beach=20
  To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:56 AM
  Subject: [real-eyes] Re: question for a customer


  I learned by taking a class here at the college.  Others I know have =
=3D
  learned by simply buying a book and digging it out on their own.

  I believe there are some online resources, but how good they really =
are is =3D
  a question I can't answer.



  Robert Lee Beach
  Assistive Technology Specialist
  Kansas City Kansas Community College
  7250 State Avenue
  Kansas City, KS  66112
  Phone:  (913) 288-7671
  Fax: (913) 288-7678
  E-mail:  rbeach@xxxxxxxxx

  >>> "Kelly Stanfield" <kstannfield@xxxxxxxxx> 10/23/2007 6:54 PM >>>
  Thank you.  This looks like it might help.  The customer is going to =
call =3D
  me=3D20
  late this week.  i'm going to forward this to myself at work.  Then, =
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  i'll=3D20
  have him e-mail me so I can reply to his message with the info =
you've=3D20
  provided.

  For in case it comes up, where would one go to learn the HTML coding?

  Thanks a bunch.

  Kelly Stanfield


  ----- Original Message -----=3D20
  From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx>
  To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:00 AM
  Subject: [real-eyes] Re: question for a customer


  > Kelly,
  >
  > I have created web pages using a couple of different methods.
  >
  > 1)  Most of the time, I hard code the page typing HTML into a =
NotePad =3D
  =3D3D
  > document and save it with the HTM or HTML extension.  This can be a =
bit =3D
  =3D3D
  > time consuming and tedious, but usually renders good results.  When =
=3D
  using=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > this method, I can position and size the graphics I need with the =
=3D3D
  > appropriate HTML code.  I can also add the Alt Text attributes while =
I'm =3D
  =3D3D
  > there and not have to worry about coming back later to put that=3D20
  > information=3D3D
  > in.  For me, this is the easiest method to use and come back later =
for =3D
  =3D3D
  > changes.
  >
  > 2)  I have created documents in MS Word then saved them as Web Page =
=3D3D
  > Filtered, which takes out a lot of the junk MS Word likes to put in =
if =3D
  you=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > only use the Web Page option.  However, there is still a lot of =
stuff to =3D
  =3D3D
  > dig through in the document if you have to go back and modify the =
page =3D
  =3D3D
  > later.  Using this method, it is still very easy to add graphics , =
size =3D
  =3D3D
  > them, and add the Alt Text attribute.  The most difficult part for =
me =3D
  was=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > adding the alt text since you need to right-click the graphic to =
bring =3D
  up=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > the context menu.  I have not found a good way to move to the =
graphic =3D
  and=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > open the context menu with the keyboard.  I've gotten it to happen a =
=3D3D
  > couple of times, but it isn't consistant.
  >
  > The more complex the page, the more difficult and time consuming it =
is =3D
  to=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > hard code.
  >
  > Is this what you're looking for?
  >
  >
  >
  > Robert Lee Beach
  > Assistive Technology Specialist
  > Kansas City Kansas Community College
  > 7250 State Avenue
  > Kansas City, KS  66112
  > Phone:  (913) 288-7671
  > Fax: (913) 288-7678
  > E-mail:  rbeach@xxxxxxxxx=3D20
  >
  >>>> "Kelly Stanfield" <kstannfield@xxxxxxxxx> 10/22/2007 8:52 PM >>>
  > We had our Disability Awareness Month celebration this past =
Wednesday at =3D
  =3D3D
  > work.  One of the customers who came was very interested in the =3D
  technology=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > we use.  It turns out he has a co-worker who when she was hired was =
=3D
  vision=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > impaired and could do Cobol programming on a screen that magnified =
the =3D
  =3D3D
  > letters quite large.  Now, however, this person is using JAWS.  I =
=3D3D
  > appologize, i didn't get a chance to find out what version of JAWS.  =
His =3D
  =3D3D
  > question to me was what we as blind people used to create web sites, =
=3D
  with=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > the graphics, if possible.  I told him that because I didn't have =
hte =3D
  =3D3D
  > answer myself i'd put the question out on an e-mail list I'm on for =
the =3D
  =3D3D
  > blind and see what I found.
  > So, there's the question.  If you have further questions, please =
fire =3D
  them=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > at me.  I asked him to call me at the store late this week and i'd =
give =3D
  =3D3D
  > him what info I have at the time.  i'll go ahead and ask him any =3D
  questions=3D20
  > =3D3D
  > you kind people may have to try and best solve the situation.
  >
  > Kelly Stanfield
  >
  >
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