Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Write me privately. I have a couple. Ruthie & =20 Virtual" means never knowing where your next byte is coming from.=20 Private mail is *always* welcome. MSN Messenger ID: ruthie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx AOL ID:=20 chaosynchronous We are the few, Who speak for the many, Who cannot speak for themselves. We are the many, Who speak for the one, Who could not speak for herself.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robert Beach=20 To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:56 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: question for a customer I learned by taking a class here at the college. Others I know have = =3D learned by simply buying a book and digging it out on their own. I believe there are some online resources, but how good they really = are is =3D a question I can't answer. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Avenue Kansas City, KS 66112 Phone: (913) 288-7671 Fax: (913) 288-7678 E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx >>> "Kelly Stanfield" <kstannfield@xxxxxxxxx> 10/23/2007 6:54 PM >>> Thank you. This looks like it might help. The customer is going to = call =3D me=3D20 late this week. i'm going to forward this to myself at work. Then, = =3D i'll=3D20 have him e-mail me so I can reply to his message with the info = you've=3D20 provided. For in case it comes up, where would one go to learn the HTML coding? Thanks a bunch. Kelly Stanfield ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:00 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: question for a customer > Kelly, > > I have created web pages using a couple of different methods. > > 1) Most of the time, I hard code the page typing HTML into a = NotePad =3D =3D3D > document and save it with the HTM or HTML extension. This can be a = bit =3D =3D3D > time consuming and tedious, but usually renders good results. When = =3D using=3D20 > =3D3D > this method, I can position and size the graphics I need with the = =3D3D > appropriate HTML code. I can also add the Alt Text attributes while = I'm =3D =3D3D > there and not have to worry about coming back later to put that=3D20 > information=3D3D > in. For me, this is the easiest method to use and come back later = for =3D =3D3D > changes. > > 2) I have created documents in MS Word then saved them as Web Page = =3D3D > Filtered, which takes out a lot of the junk MS Word likes to put in = if =3D you=3D20 > =3D3D > only use the Web Page option. However, there is still a lot of = stuff to =3D =3D3D > dig through in the document if you have to go back and modify the = page =3D =3D3D > later. Using this method, it is still very easy to add graphics , = size =3D =3D3D > them, and add the Alt Text attribute. The most difficult part for = me =3D was=3D20 > =3D3D > adding the alt text since you need to right-click the graphic to = bring =3D up=3D20 > =3D3D > the context menu. I have not found a good way to move to the = graphic =3D and=3D20 > =3D3D > open the context menu with the keyboard. I've gotten it to happen a = =3D3D > couple of times, but it isn't consistant. > > The more complex the page, the more difficult and time consuming it = is =3D to=3D20 > =3D3D > hard code. > > Is this what you're looking for? > > > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx=3D20 > >>>> "Kelly Stanfield" <kstannfield@xxxxxxxxx> 10/22/2007 8:52 PM >>> > We had our Disability Awareness Month celebration this past = Wednesday at =3D =3D3D > work. One of the customers who came was very interested in the =3D technology=3D20 > =3D3D > we use. It turns out he has a co-worker who when she was hired was = =3D vision=3D20 > =3D3D > impaired and could do Cobol programming on a screen that magnified = the =3D =3D3D > letters quite large. Now, however, this person is using JAWS. I = =3D3D > appologize, i didn't get a chance to find out what version of JAWS. = His =3D =3D3D > question to me was what we as blind people used to create web sites, = =3D with=3D20 > =3D3D > the graphics, if possible. I told him that because I didn't have = hte =3D =3D3D > answer myself i'd put the question out on an e-mail list I'm on for = the =3D =3D3D > blind and see what I found. > So, there's the question. If you have further questions, please = fire =3D them=3D20 > =3D3D > at me. I asked him to call me at the store late this week and i'd = give =3D =3D3D > him what info I have at the time. i'll go ahead and ask him any =3D questions=3D20 > =3D3D > you kind people may have to try and best solve the situation. > > Kelly Stanfield > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription = options, =3D =3D3D > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=3D3D20=3D20 > > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription =3D options,=3D20 > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=3D20 > >=3D20 To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription = options, =3D go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes=3D20 To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription = options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- File: hug.jpg To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes