I got the defender downloaded and tried to install but got an error, can't remember what though, and started over again. after downloading again wouldn't let me install it. said something about couldn't be accessed and to make sure valid something or other. i'll try again when have more time and post the errors. Does microsoft just let have one download of any one free program? Suzanne R This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes