[real-eyes] Re: IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
- From: Robert Beach <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:32:17 -0600
Before you all get too overly excited about Voice Over and accessibility, I'd
suggest doing more checking in to it. From the folks I have spoken with and
those presentatins I have seen at conferences, Mac is not totally accessible
with Voice Over. For example, Microsoft Office on the Mac cannot be completely
accessed with Voice Over. Forget PowerPoint and Excel.
The general opinion that I have heard is that it is a nice step forward, but
there's a long way to go. Macs are cool, but they are not productive machines
for blind individuals at this point. They are much better for individuals with
learning disabilities or possibly low vision.
Okay, bring on the shouts of outrage. <grin>
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From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Kimberly A. Morrow [morrowka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:37 AM
To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: {spam?} [real-eyes] Re: IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
Andrea, I feel the very same way. The next computer I buy is going to be
a Mac. JAWS is fabulous--but no company should be able to monopolize the
market the way Freedom Scientific has done, and charge upwards of $800,
with a $200 annual upgrade fee, simply to provide the blind access to
the equivalent of a sighted person's computer screen/monitor. Can you
even begin to imagine the uproar from the sighted public if they even
thought they would have to pay $800 for a basic computer monitor with no
less expensive option available?
Kimberly Morrow, PhD
Communications Specialist
Message of Hope Ministry
1901 NW Blue Parkway
Unity Village, MO 64065-0001
message-of-hope@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 866--421-3066 (Toll-free)
Hours: M-Th 7:00 a.m.-4:00 p.m. (CT)
Kimberly A. Morrow
Outreach Specialist - Unity.fm
Unity
1901 NW Blue Parkway
Unity Village, MO 64065
816-251-3588
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-----Original Message-----
From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrea Breier
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:48 AM
To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
Yeah, it is to bad. I think that if you ever got an accessible ipod, or
any device in your hands would convince you how cool it is. Your girls
wouldn't be able to get a hold of it, because they wouldn't be able to
get it away from you! LOL I'm telling you, the next computer I buy is
going to be a Mac!
Hugs, Andrea M Breier
Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of
yours!
Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest
to God
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
> The Nano having VO is what kills me. It seems inconceivable that the
Nano
> would have VO and the Touch wouldn't.
>
> Have heard great things about the Apple store on the Plaza, and they
were
> quite friendly and helpful when I spoke with them yesterday. They too
were
> adamant they would be able to make it work if I were to bring it in.
The
> weather, and the fact I have only 7-days to return the device, makes
it
> highly unlikely that I will get to take them up on their offer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Kimberly A. Morrow
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:09 AM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
>
> I've always found that if you can actually get to an Apple Store and
have
> the rep demo products for you, the trip is well worth it. If you live
in
> the
> Kansas City area, they've really got their act together at Apple on
the
> Plaza. I was intent on purchasing the new Ipod Nano, which does have
voice
> over. If I had simply ordered it from apple.com rather than going into
the
> Apple Store, I would have never realized (nor would the rep), just how
> easily VO shuts down on those particular units. In the end, I decided
> against purchase of that particular device due to VO's
unpredictability in
> interfacing with it.
>
> Kim
>
>
>
> Kimberly Morrow, PhD
> Communications Specialist
>
> Message of Hope Ministry
> 1901 NW Blue Parkway
> Unity Village, MO 64065-0001
> message-of-hope@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Phone: 866--421-3066 (Toll-free)
> Hours: M-Th 7:00 a.m.-4:00 p.m. (CT)
>
>
>
> Kimberly A. Morrow
> Outreach Specialist - Unity.fm
> Unity
> 1901 NW Blue Parkway
> Unity Village, MO 64065
> 816-251-3588
>
> http://www.unity.org/
> http://www.dailyword.com/
> http://www.silentunity.org/
> http://www.unityvillage.org/
> http://www.unity.fm/
> http://www.unityinstitute.org/
> http://www.unitymagazine.org/
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrea Breier
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:17 PM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
>
> Sorry, I forgot to enquire, Did you buy this from apple. If so, they
will
> be great if you choose to return, or exchange. You shouldn't even
have
> to
> pay a restocking fee, if one of their staff told you that voice over
came
> out on that iPod. That would be their mistake, not yours.
> Hugs, Andrea M Breier
>
> Remember: If you see someone without a smile today give them one of
yours!
> Live simply. Love seriously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest
to
> God
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:40 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] IPod Touch 3rd Gen voiceover
>
>
>> Has anyone had issues getting accessibility working on the IPod Touch
> 3rd
>> gen? Just bought an 8Gb model, and we aren't finding accessibility in
> the
>> Settings menu. It just isn't there. OS was updated to 4.2.1, and that
>> appears to be current. Spoke with Apple tech support, and he says it
> is an
>> app you download. Couldn't find any such app in the I Tunes store,
and
> all
>> their documentation indicates that it is built into the OS. The Apple
>> store
>> here in town says they can fix it, but getting there is going to be a
>> pain.
>>
>> I am wondering if this is something that only works with higher
> capacity
>> models. We have three of these, and none show the menus we are
> supposed to
>> be seeing. All are 8Gb models though. Maybe I should have bought the
>> current
>> model, but I only wanted it to use as a remote for my Sonos system.
>>
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