I believe when dealing with agencies or entities that are not providing services in a manner in which are accessible, we shouldn't show our hand to respect of letting them know we are looking at or entertaining the thought of bringing some sort of legal action against them. We should first follow their procedures in filing a complaint, after no responses are received which is usually the case a second complaint should be filed for not responding to the first one. I know this may become a long drawn out process, however, in many cases having a paper trail is important because then your showing you've attempted to contact and resolve the outstanding issue or issues. At the same time, though, if the response is not satisfactory then a response to that response is important because if not then it will support the providers claim they responded and everything was satisfactory. After all fails then a person can take it to the next level by acquiring legal assistance and providing them with the documentation sent to the respective party. Being involved in a transportation lawsuit here in Northern Indiana with 3 municipalities, 2 county wide providers, the Metropolitan Planning Organization and the Indiana Department Of Transportation, I learned every time I had a complaint I would use the in house procedure available and when not receiving a response I would send a copy of the original complaint with a second complaint to the respective agency the vehicles were leased from, which in our area is the Metropolitan Planning Organization. After keeping copies of all said documents when we finally had legal representation we used all said documents as proof that the providers were not providing trans in the best possible manner and it also supported our claim they were not trying to resolve said issues. So it's important to file all necessary complaints regardless of how tiring it gets and in some cases it does get discouraging. I know K C has some trans issues, but if some thing is going to get done, it's going to be important to file all necessary complaints in writing, this from my experience. The lawsuit was filed in 1997 and didn't get finalized until 2006 and really there are some other issues involved, but prepare yourselves for the long haul, don't get discouraged and keep filing those complaints, we also received monetary damages, for what it was worth. Peace Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrie Arnold" <tanderson3@xxxxxxxxx> To: <First-Steps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:32 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Fw: another tip both share a fare and life > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Clark > To: first-steps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:10 PM > Subject: another tip both share a fare and life > > > One tip I want to pass along is one I learned from a lawyer in the past > few years. Never tell anybody or any company or group that you are going > to sue them or take them to court. That can be used against you later on > to show that you are lawsuit happy and that your intentions may not be > what you are presenting, even if you were wronged and have a good basis > for your suit or action. > > I and others have been guilty of using that phrase from time to time but > its just best to call them a sillyhead and walk away. If those words ever > need to be used, let your lawyer use them. > > Steve > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "First Steps for the Blind" group. > To post to this group, send email to First-Steps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > First-Steps+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/First-Steps?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes