[real-eyes] Re: Fw: IPhone for DeafBlind

  • From: Brandie Young <deaftaz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:48:51 -0600

reg,

understand that. that's why you were ask me here for that. not know
much it cost 12 cell display and iphone either?
when i was on plane i use my laptop with f40 to called people has no
problem either in the car too

andrea: yeah oh well,  it will be fun haha, no way use save money, i
saved money for  to buy microwave and desktop and some vacations
shhhhhh

On 3/14/11, Reginald George <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't think you have the Focus Blue, too bad.  With a IPhone you would
> probably want a smaller 12 cell display like the Braille Pen Plus that could
> fit in a purse or small bag.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandie Young" <deaftaz@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:30 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: IPhone for DeafBlind
>
>
> hey reggy
>
> why are you trying to get me iphone? didn't know focus work with
> iphone? is that my f40 display has bluetooth?
>
>
>
> On 3/14/11, Reginald George <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Heads up Brandy.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Tanner
>> To: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility (was: I have
>> several questions.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am an assistive technology specialist with the state of Minnesota.  A
>> part
>> of my assigned case load is to handle all the assistive technology needs
>> for
>> all of the deaf-blind clients of our state.  In the past 6 months or so at
>> least four of our clients have purchased and are using the iPhone, and a
>> couple of them are using the MacBook Pro.   Two of these folks are using
>> their iPhone for texting, relay services, email, surfing the web,
>> notetaking, and much more.
>>
>> I would say that the trend in the deaf-blind community is definately
>> moving
>> in the direction of using the iPhone due to the number of things that they
>> can do with it with refreshable Braille displays or a compatible
>> hearingaid.
>>
>> I also just did a technology evaluation for another person this past week
>> who we will eventually be purchasing a iPad for with a Focus Blue Braille
>> display to use for her business as a contract technology trainer for the
>> deaf-blind in the twin cities area.
>>
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Bubba
>>   To: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:11 PM
>>   Subject: RE: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility (was: I have
>> several questions.)
>>
>>
>>
>>   Me either. I don't know do they have or get the iphone? Be nice to have
>> some
>>   input on how many blind and deaf people use IDevice!
>>
>>
>>   Sign,
>>   Bubba
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>>   Cheree
>>   Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:20 PM
>>   To: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   Subject: Re: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility (was: I have
>>   several questions.)
>>
>>   Cheree Heppe here:
>>
>>   Has anyone asked a deaf blind person what they think would be best?
>>
>>   I don't know any deaf blind people just now myself.
>>
>>   Regards,
>>   Cheree Heppe
>>
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>   On 12/03/2011, at 14:24, "David Tanner" <david.tanner100@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Vibration would be the best way to go, and it is what the iBill uses
>>   too. I think that really needs to be suggested to the developers. There
>> a
>>   lot of deaf-blind starting to use the iPhone because they can use the
>>   texting, relay, and a number of other special apps with a refreshable
>>   Braille display.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Ricardo Walker <mailto:rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>>   To: <mailto:aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>   Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:36 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility
>>   (was: I have several questions.)
>>
>>
>>
>>   Hi,
>>
>>   In the case of the def blind, wouldn't it be easier to have
>>   the phone vibrate? You kno, like 1 vibrate for a dollar, 2 for a 5, etc.
>>
>>   Ricardo Walker
>>   <mailto:rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx
>>   Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
>>
>>   On Mar 11, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>
>>   > Actually, the money identifier does not require a
>>   connection; that is
>>   > one of its features, in fact. Other ocr apps do, and
>>   certainly
>>   > identification apps like Red Laser or Noggles do because
>>   they do
>>   > actual searches online, but the money identifier app needs
>>   nothing.
>>   > True, it does not print its results to a braille display,
>>   but that
>>   > could be fixed if enough people contact the company and
>>   request it. As
>>   > you said, it will not work for the deaf-blind, so an
>>   update should be
>>   > provided.
>>   >
>>   > As to doing without all of these devices, of course one
>>   can always
>>   > make the argument that it is possible. However, taking
>>   notes on a
>>   > slate and stylus is much slower than doing so with a
>>   braille or qwerty
>>   > notetaker. Even if you are the world's fastest writer with
>>   the stylus,
>>   > you still have to stop and change pages. I agree that the
>>   abacus is a
>>   > great tool, and I even have a couple of them. However, if
>>   I need to
>>   > plug a couple numbers into a complex function I just got
>>   as a result
>>   > of an integration, nothing beats a calculator.
>>   >
>>   > In short, I can definitely see your point, but most apps
>>   are just as
>>   > accessible to the deaf-blind as they are to the blind,
>>   provided one
>>   > has a bluetooth braille display. Many apps do not require
>>   a data
>>   > connection, and those that do will work just as well with
>>   wifi as with
>>   > cellular data. I have the iPod, so all I can get is wifi,
>>   and I have
>>   > only run into problems in the car where there is no wifi,
>>   but even
>>   > then all my games, dictionary, notes, and so forth worked
>>   just fine, I
>>   > just could not access the cloud for an hour. Okay,
>>   off-topic response
>>   > over.
>>   >
>>   > On 3/11/11, <mailto:angel238%40sbcglobal.net>
>>   angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < <mailto:angel238%40sbcglobal.net>
>>   angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>   >> Not if you consider you need to stay connected to a cell
>>   phone provider to
>>   >> use the identifier. How much does that cost monthly? In
>>   fact you have to
>>   >> remain with these cell providers if you want to continue
>>   using any of these
>>   >> applications of which you all are so fond. This creates
>>   for either A T & T
>>   >> or Verizon a steady supply of addicted customers. This is
>>   even sadder as
>>   >> many of us are on limited incomes, and can't afford these
>>   fancy phones as
>>   >> easily as can sighted people with much more disposable
>>   income. Not to
>>   >> mention the race to get the latest product each time a
>>   contract expires. Or
>>   >> remaining with the company simply because one wants to
>>   keep the dollar and a
>>   >> half currency identifier. I use as few talking things as
>>   I can possibly use
>>   >> out of sympathy with my deaf-blind brothers and sisters.
>>   Who might not be
>>   >> able to use these applications unless they can be
>>   integrated with Braille
>>   >> displays. How compatible are these different applications
>>   with the various
>>   >> Braille devices which can be pared with the IPhone?Is
>>   that what you want.
>>   >> Not I. If I chose I could even give up wireless
>>   altogether. I would still
>>   >> have my currency identifier, my light probe, my slate and
>>   stylus, abacus
>>   >> ETC. All I need to maintain all of them is a single
>>   triple a battery to
>>   >> insert in to the I-bill maybe each year.
>>   >> ----- Original Message -----
>>   >> From: Mary Kozy
>>   >> To: <mailto:aiphone%40yahoogroups.com>
>>   aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM
>>   >> Subject: Re: [aiphone] I have several questions.
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Hi Angel,
>>   >>
>>   >> I purchased the money identifier too and it is very cool.
>>   I was
>>   >> considering getting the IBill and it costs $100 so I just
>>   saved myself $98
>>   >> and less things to carry around.
>>   >>
>>   >> Mary
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> At 09:03 PM 3/10/2011, you wrote:
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> well guys I downloaded the money reader app. wow man wow
>>   it is so cool.
>>   >> I would love to know how many people purchased as well.
>>   >> any way here are my questions.
>>   >> 1 the black jack game that is accessible is there a
>>   tutorial on how to
>>   >> play the game a tutorial that describes the controls and
>>   how to see what the
>>   >> dealer has and what you how and so on.
>>   >> 2 I would like to know the name of the chess app that is
>>   accessible I
>>   >> want to down load it for myself I am a big chess player.
>>   >> 3 I would like to know what are the commands for backing
>>   up my ipod so
>>   >> just in case if I were to loose mine and I got another I
>>   would be able to
>>   >> get all my stuff back.
>>   >> any way list thanks talk to you later.
>>   >> Angel.
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
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