[real-eyes] Re: Fw: IPhone for DeafBlind

  • From: "Andrea Breier" <abreier@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:53:01 -0500

As far as I know there are two or three hard of hearing blind people using 
iphones.  As I understand it, some are able to hear vo using their hearing 
aids.  A large number of people are already using braillle displays with 
their iphones.  this will be so cool.  We have one right here in kc that 
just got a pocket size braille display to use with their iphone.  We will 
have to see about getting  you hooked up for some practice!
My best regards to you all,

Andrea M. Breier

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reginald George" <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: [real-eyes] Fw: IPhone for DeafBlind


> Heads up Brandy.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: David Tanner
> To: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility (was: I have 
> several questions.)
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am an assistive technology specialist with the state of Minnesota.  A 
> part of my assigned case load is to handle all the assistive technology 
> needs for all of the deaf-blind clients of our state.  In the past 6 
> months or so at least four of our clients have purchased and are using the 
> iPhone, and a couple of them are using the MacBook Pro.   Two of these 
> folks are using their iPhone for texting, relay services, email, surfing 
> the web, notetaking, and much more.
>
> I would say that the trend in the deaf-blind community is definately 
> moving in the direction of using the iPhone due to the number of things 
> that they can do with it with refreshable Braille displays or a compatible 
> hearingaid.
>
> I also just did a technology evaluation for another person this past week 
> who we will eventually be purchasing a iPad for with a Focus Blue Braille 
> display to use for her business as a contract technology trainer for the 
> deaf-blind in the twin cities area.
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bubba
>  To: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:11 PM
>  Subject: RE: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility (was: I have 
> several questions.)
>
>
>
>  Me either. I don't know do they have or get the iphone? Be nice to have 
> some
>  input on how many blind and deaf people use IDevice!
>
>
>  Sign,
>  Bubba
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
>  Cheree
>  Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:20 PM
>  To: aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: Re: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility (was: I have
>  several questions.)
>
>  Cheree Heppe here:
>
>  Has anyone asked a deaf blind person what they think would be best?
>
>  I don't know any deaf blind people just now myself.
>
>  Regards,
>  Cheree Heppe
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On 12/03/2011, at 14:24, "David Tanner" <david.tanner100@xxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>  Vibration would be the best way to go, and it is what the iBill uses
>  too. I think that really needs to be suggested to the developers. There a
>  lot of deaf-blind starting to use the iPhone because they can use the
>  texting, relay, and a number of other special apps with a refreshable
>  Braille display.
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Ricardo Walker <mailto:rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>  To: <mailto:aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>  Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:36 AM
>  Subject: Re: [aiphone] data connection and accessibility
>  (was: I have several questions.)
>
>
>
>  Hi,
>
>  In the case of the def blind, wouldn't it be easier to have
>  the phone vibrate? You kno, like 1 vibrate for a dollar, 2 for a 5, etc.
>
>  Ricardo Walker
>  <mailto:rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx
>  Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
>
>  On Mar 11, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>  > Actually, the money identifier does not require a
>  connection; that is
>  > one of its features, in fact. Other ocr apps do, and
>  certainly
>  > identification apps like Red Laser or Noggles do because
>  they do
>  > actual searches online, but the money identifier app needs
>  nothing.
>  > True, it does not print its results to a braille display,
>  but that
>  > could be fixed if enough people contact the company and
>  request it. As
>  > you said, it will not work for the deaf-blind, so an
>  update should be
>  > provided.
>  >
>  > As to doing without all of these devices, of course one
>  can always
>  > make the argument that it is possible. However, taking
>  notes on a
>  > slate and stylus is much slower than doing so with a
>  braille or qwerty
>  > notetaker. Even if you are the world's fastest writer with
>  the stylus,
>  > you still have to stop and change pages. I agree that the
>  abacus is a
>  > great tool, and I even have a couple of them. However, if
>  I need to
>  > plug a couple numbers into a complex function I just got
>  as a result
>  > of an integration, nothing beats a calculator.
>  >
>  > In short, I can definitely see your point, but most apps
>  are just as
>  > accessible to the deaf-blind as they are to the blind,
>  provided one
>  > has a bluetooth braille display. Many apps do not require
>  a data
>  > connection, and those that do will work just as well with
>  wifi as with
>  > cellular data. I have the iPod, so all I can get is wifi,
>  and I have
>  > only run into problems in the car where there is no wifi,
>  but even
>  > then all my games, dictionary, notes, and so forth worked
>  just fine, I
>  > just could not access the cloud for an hour. Okay,
>  off-topic response
>  > over.
>  >
>  > On 3/11/11, <mailto:angel238%40sbcglobal.net>
>  angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < <mailto:angel238%40sbcglobal.net>
>  angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >> Not if you consider you need to stay connected to a cell
>  phone provider to
>  >> use the identifier. How much does that cost monthly? In
>  fact you have to
>  >> remain with these cell providers if you want to continue
>  using any of these
>  >> applications of which you all are so fond. This creates
>  for either A T & T
>  >> or Verizon a steady supply of addicted customers. This is
>  even sadder as
>  >> many of us are on limited incomes, and can't afford these
>  fancy phones as
>  >> easily as can sighted people with much more disposable
>  income. Not to
>  >> mention the race to get the latest product each time a
>  contract expires. Or
>  >> remaining with the company simply because one wants to
>  keep the dollar and a
>  >> half currency identifier. I use as few talking things as
>  I can possibly use
>  >> out of sympathy with my deaf-blind brothers and sisters.
>  Who might not be
>  >> able to use these applications unless they can be
>  integrated with Braille
>  >> displays. How compatible are these different applications
>  with the various
>  >> Braille devices which can be pared with the IPhone?Is
>  that what you want.
>  >> Not I. If I chose I could even give up wireless
>  altogether. I would still
>  >> have my currency identifier, my light probe, my slate and
>  stylus, abacus
>  >> ETC. All I need to maintain all of them is a single
>  triple a battery to
>  >> insert in to the I-bill maybe each year.
>  >> ----- Original Message -----
>  >> From: Mary Kozy
>  >> To: <mailto:aiphone%40yahoogroups.com>
>  aiphone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [aiphone] I have several questions.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Hi Angel,
>  >>
>  >> I purchased the money identifier too and it is very cool.
>  I was
>  >> considering getting the IBill and it costs $100 so I just
>  saved myself $98
>  >> and less things to carry around.
>  >>
>  >> Mary
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> At 09:03 PM 3/10/2011, you wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> well guys I downloaded the money reader app. wow man wow
>  it is so cool.
>  >> I would love to know how many people purchased as well.
>  >> any way here are my questions.
>  >> 1 the black jack game that is accessible is there a
>  tutorial on how to
>  >> play the game a tutorial that describes the controls and
>  how to see what the
>  >> dealer has and what you how and so on.
>  >> 2 I would like to know the name of the chess app that is
>  accessible I
>  >> want to down load it for myself I am a big chess player.
>  >> 3 I would like to know what are the commands for backing
>  up my ipod so
>  >> just in case if I were to loose mine and I got another I
>  would be able to
>  >> get all my stuff back.
>  >> any way list thanks talk to you later.
>  >> Angel.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >
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