[ratpack] Re: Old version of PhotoShop? (I found Elements 3...and a DVD story)
- From: John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:53:11 -0600
There was a backup system at work, that I swapped disks on the server every
morning, that was the routine. Now they are doing online backup (a good
thing). That drive was dual layer. We were out, and I bought some dual layer
disks. They didn't work. They were dual layer, and the proper ones (for $45
per 25 discs). They just didn't work in that drive. I have since gotten a DL
drive for my work station, just so I could use the expensive disks, or
anything else I may throw at it. If you get one of those drives, you can
pretty much burn anything in it. Including lightscribe. The internal version
was about $90.
I have the lightscribe in the laptop. I have only burned one, although I
have a small spindle (10 maybe) and it works pretty cool. You flip the CD
when you are ready and it burns it on the top side. Never got around to
making a template for the discs though. I need to do that (when there is
nothing else on my plate........ Are there lightscribe drives in
heaven?/hell?)
I am off to hunt down a proportioning valve for the Monte. It's a 45 min
drive away, and I may not get it in the car today, unless it's late, and I
finish all the Diamond setting, and CAD designs I have to get done before
Monday. An elf's work is never done!
JC
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John Christensen
Saint Charles, IL
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I might be ok. After sifting through a stack of CDs, I found one that
> contained a legal copy of Elements 3. I installed it and it appears to
> work. It was included in something else I bought but I don't remember what
> it was. We'll see how the upgrade goes when the CS2 gets here.
>
> As long as I'm here, I'll relate a bit of a story (I'm trying to eat some
> crackers in hopes that they chase the nausea away.) A couple of weeks ago,
> I found a pretty good deal on a Toshiba DVD read/write and VCR combo. I
> also picked up a spindle what appeared to be compatible Verbatim DVD+R
> disks. Well, one thing happened and then another and I only got around to
> trying to record to it a couple of days ago. I wanted (and still do) to
> save a couple of races that I have on my DVR. So I did what seemed like the
> right thing to do: opened the package of disks and slipped one into the
> reader/recorder. I got a message that told me the disk could not be read.
> Well, that's probably true, I thought....it's brand-new and doesn't have
> anything on it. How could it be read?
>
> I went to the manual (that novel about a Spanish guy) and read about having
> to format a disk before recording and finalizing it afterward. Ok. I'll
> format it. No, since it can't be read, it can't be formatted. This
> confused me and still does. I've only been working with disk-based computer
> systems since the 1970s, so I might have missed something, but in every
> instance I've run into, one has to initialize (that's what it used to be
> called) or format a disk before one could use it, the only exception being
> 3.5" diskettes which at one point came pre-formatted (they didn't when they
> first came into use...you had to format them.)
>
> So I tried several other disks and they all came up with the same error. I
> noticed a pattern here. Nothing was working. I looked at the wrapper of
> the spindle of 20 DVD-R disks and the "rw" symbol was there, just as it was
> in the manual. I chased my tail for a while, then searched on the web for
> some information and all I came up with was ads for disks and recorders.
> Eventually, I found Toshiba's website and sent an email describing my
> problem. One of the first questions the tech support person asked in
> response was, "Are these dual-layer disks?" Huh? I had no idea. But
> eventually I found out that yes, they are DL or double-layer disks. There
> is no mention of this in the manual at all, although on the cover there are
> 8 different symbols, apparently representing the type of read/write
> methods/media that the recorder could use. Two of those 8 were similar to
> the "rw" symbol on the spindle of disks I'd been trying to use. Finally,
> after getting out a magnifying glass (I know my eyesight isn't that great
> and the problems of excessive tearing which is still with me affect
> it...btw, it's switched eyes now. It's in the left eye...leaving my right
> suitable for peering into the viewfinder)...anyway I looked at 'em under a
> magnifying glass and found that the 2 symbols on the manual had very small
> print under the "rw" which said DVD-ReWritable and DVD-R. The nearly
> identical symbol on the spindle of disks said, "DVD+R DL" Oh. DL. Maybe
> that means double layer. Yep. That's what it means, alright.
>
> I emailed the support tech back and told him that seemed to be the
> problem. He then wrote back and said that Toshiba doesn't make a DVD
> player/recorder that supports double layer format. Ok. I've run into
> things like this in the past, going WAY back to the 14" Caelus type disk
> cartridges that could come in single or double density with white plastic
> shells or quad density with black shells. (I think they only made about 16
> of the quad density disks cuz nobody could keep them running for more than a
> few hours due to thermal expansion/contraction of the baseplates.) Same
> with 720kb/1.4mb diskettes. The only difference was a 2nd hole in the case
> opposite the write-protect tab.
>
> But as I was looking for different media, I found myself overwhelmed with
> hundreds, in not thousands of different types of recording media. If you go
> to Amazon.com and search for DVD+R disks you'll find that there are 59
> different options for Verbatim disks alone. To make things just a bit more
> confusing, the packaging of the double layer disks was virtually identical
> to supposedly "single layer" Lightscribe disks which (according to the ad
> blurb) are supposed to support a new technology that allows for
> "professional, silkscreen-quality labels on CDs and DVDs."
>
> Here's the analogy I came up with:
> A hungry person approaches a buffet with many different but similar
> appearing foods and finds out after the fact that one of them was
> incompatible with his body, resulting in food poisoning. I suppose that
> might stretch the boundaries of imagination slightly, but there are
> similarities in both situations where the "user" got something that didn't
> work. I guess it could be like eating poisonous puffer fish at a Japanese
> buffet and finding out that the incompatibility with the body had fatal
> consequences. Fortunately I didn't try to eat any of the disks. It's all I
> can do to eat crackers at the moment.
>
> I think it's time for bass practice. At least I know the strings on the
> bass are compatible with my fingers and the blues. Ohh...a recommendation:
> Maria Muldaur's album called Richland Woman Blues. It's very, very good in
> my opinion. I'd never thought of her as a blues singer, but she's got it
> down right. Me and My Chauffeur Blues is ossum.
>
> RtR
>
>
> At 04:47 PM 11/28/2009, you wrote:
>
> I have Elements 5.0 on the 'puter, not sure where the disk is?
> hwp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:17 PM
> Subject: [ratpack] Re: Old version of PhotoShop?
>
> The actions are fine and I'd appreciate 'em...but I don't have PhotoShop.
> That's what I really need.
>
> As I looked at the upgrade path on the web, it sorta seemed like one could
> upgrade from Elements to CS2 (which is the version I'm trying to help my
> friend with.)
>
> Carl, didn't you say that you had a copy that you installed and then
> immediately got rid of?
>
> RtR
>
>
> At 11:18 AM 11/28/2009, you wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> I have a couple of actions that I picked up off the internet that work
> pretty well for some standard workflow and shapening. They're not very large
> (in size) so I can zip them up and send them off. I can help him load them
> if needed. How's that sound?
>
> Michael
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yanno,
> karma is an interesting thing. Not too long ago I made the post "PhotoShop
> hates me." Today I have a friend in Washington ask me questions about how
> to automate his photo post-processing workflow. I suggested that he create
> an action script to do this. Well, as good a friend as he is...well, he's
> not really all that computer savvy. And he's on a Mac.
> I did some googling and found how to record an action and tried to explain
> it to him, buy it was sorta like the blind leading the blind...or in this
> case, the dumb leading the deaf. But my friend stopped me in the middle and
> told me that he has a brand-new, never opened or installed update package
> with PhotoShop CS2...for PC, rather than Mac, He's putting it into the mail
> today so that I can install it on my Windoze XP machine and then guide him
> through the steps as I do 'em.
> Here's the problem. Being an upgrade, I need an older copy of PS (with
> activation key) to use as the basis for the upgrade. I ain't got one.
> So...does anyone have an older PS package that I could install on my XP box
> and then upgrade? That would sure help me help him.
> See the karma in all this? I slam PS and then I need to install it to help
> a friend. I prolly shoulda kept my yap shut. But alas, I didn't so karma
> has once again bitten me on the ass.
> I'd appreciate any help on this. Oh...I don't think PS Elements will work
> as a base, but Adobe's website indicates that you can do it (to CS4, anyway)
> if you pay the $600 ransom. I won't even start a rant here.
> Anyway if ya got one and aren't using it, I'd appreciate being able to use
> it so I can help my friend out.
> Thanks, Ray
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Wells
> MCWells Photography
> mcwellsphoto@xxxxxxxxx
> 801-850-7279
>
>
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